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U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Post by mikeryan »

_haoa wrote: post #139
firstcommentyo wrote: post #98

Dislosure: I'm not directly from the fields of the Sciences Of Angles And Ambiguously Crossing Lines nor I've every seen or used this symbol before. However to me it's, pretty evidently, supposed to be a "no right angle" symbol. (A) It's in the math section, (B) it's with angles, (C) the thunderbolt ↯ is commonly used for "not" or more specifically for dis-proof in this area and (D) at least by my 30 s internet searc…

Right angles have a small box near the vertex which denotes it is a right angle [0]. This symbol doesn't have that box, so I don't think it's a right angle. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_angle#/media/File:Right_... Edit: This merely adds to the confusion, since the name of the glyph contains the words "right angle." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This merely adds to the confusion, since the name of the glyph contains the words "right angle."

The article notes that sans a given meaning the glyph was given a “descriptive name”.

So you’re not wrong? :-P

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Post by nybble41 »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #181
jancsika wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok but what about all the cryptocurrency symbols? Those will probably accelerate the rate. Perhaps not by a significant or even measurable amount. Nonetheless, it's a great reason to start investigating a blockchain alternative to Unicode

The successful bitcoin sign proposal [1] explicitly deals with such a criticism: > Will Unicode be flooded with symbols for many crypto-currencies? > Most other crypto-currencies have learned from the difficulty that a non-Unicode symbol causes for Bitcoin, and use a symbol already in Unicode. For instance, Dogecoin uses Đ, Ethereum uses Ξ, Litecoin uses Ł, Namecoin uses ℕ, Peercoin uses Ᵽ and Primecoin uses Ψ. Some,…

It seem to me that this is something best handled with tag characters, like ¤XBT + (U+E007F) = ₿ (where the letters are from the tag block, U+E00xx). This mirrors one of the two systems for rendering national flags[0], just with a different starting codepoint, and can easily accommodate all the ISO 4217 currency codes and common unofficial extensions. If a system doesn't know how to render a particular glyph it can just fall back to showing the Roman capital letters.

The downside of this approach is size: each tag codepoint (including the end marker) requires four bytes in UTF-8, plus two for ¤, so the sequence above is 18 bytes long.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tags_(Unicode_block)#Current_u...

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Post by qiskit »

esperent wrote: post #165
firstcommentyo wrote: post #98

Dislosure: I'm not directly from the fields of the Sciences Of Angles And Ambiguously Crossing Lines nor I've every seen or used this symbol before. However to me it's, pretty evidently, supposed to be a "no right angle" symbol. (A) It's in the math section, (B) it's with angles, (C) the thunderbolt ↯ is commonly used for "not" or more specifically for dis-proof in this area and (D) at least by my 30 s internet searc…

> the thunderbolt ↯ is commonly used for "not" or more specifically for dis-proof in this area and I don't think it's that common. At least, I don't recall seeing it ever. Maybe it's used in non-English mathematics? Wikipedia mentions it's also used in electrolysis so maybe this new one is related to that somehow?

Same. Never seen that symbol in my life. I've seen ¬, ~, !, etc used for not/negation in computer science, math, logic, etc.

And some commenters said they used it to mark proof by contradiction, but why is there a need to mark it when you are showing it via proof? A canonical example of proof by contradiction is proving sqrt(2) is not rational. Never have I seen it marked with that symbol. Where would you even mark it? At the beginning with the assumption? Or at the end like QED?

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Post by joquarky »

grahameb wrote: post #111
mbeex wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think, you don't get the full grasp of "early, friendly internet". Very few people do today. In my bubble - programming, for example, young people can't even imagine that there were times when you could focus on _things_ instead of writing layers of security code around them.

It makes me sad to think of all those simple little services we used to run on *NIX machines, like `finger` and `whois`. You'd never want to disclose that information now, but at the time it was quite nice to be able to see if a friend or colleague was around with a simple network query.

I remember when I could connect to nearly any server on the internet on port 25 and manually type the commands to send an email.

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Post by standeven »

Someone wrote: post #91

I would think something like this: | | \ | \ | \ /\ | \/ \ | \ | _\/ | +——————————————— Could (more or less) fit that description and would make more sense as a symbol. Something like it even made it into Unicode ( https://emojipedia.org/chart-decreasing/ )

This was my first thought as well. Either a misdrawn version of this, or a corrupt SVG, that somehow made it to production.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

bckr wrote: post #204
firstcommentyo wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im sorry to be a party pooper but though Linking Sigil is also mentioned in the article but that's not what the article is refering/asking about.

Hmm, the article links to the Linking Sigil at the bottom, in the links section. But the rest of the article is concerned with how mysterious the symbol is, and how no one knows where it came from. A clue: anyone can register a symbol for a surprisingly small fee. A question: why would the sigil be mentioned in an addendum but not in the article proper? Anyway, it's pretty obvious that GP had a premonition this morni…

> A clue: anyone can register a symbol for a surprisingly small fee.

A unicode symbol? I want a symbol! How much are we talking about?

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Post by kens »

primer42 wrote: post #74

So Unicode has all these mysterious characters... but I would bet that it's still true that many people on the planet speaking common languages can't even type their name... This post is from 2015, and I'd love to know if unicode has added better support for non-English languages since then. https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of... Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_(Unicode_block)…

I read that "I Can’t Write My Name" article when it came out and it's remarkably misguided. First, there are solid linguistic reasons why Unicode handles that character the way it does. Second, the article completely misunderstands how the Unicode Consortium works. Finally, the Unicode Consortium is remarkably open to character proposals from random people. The author could have written a proposal and fixed the problem in half the time it took to write the article. Source: I am a random person who got multiple characters added to Unicode.

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Post by raydev »

throwaway787544 wrote: post #175
egfx wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s Warez.

"wah-rez"

This reminds me, my friend and I were the only people we knew who'd even used the internet in the late 90s so no one was around to correct us, and 3 of the apparently incorrect pronounciations we had agreed on were:

- war-ehz

- gee-aw-cit-eez

- jif

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