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ionathan.ch

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There is no reason to believe the current rate (about ~35,000 over the period 2010--2020) to change rapidly, so we are probably safe for this century. You should be aware that emoji gender and skin color is encoded in character sequences and modifiers rather than atomic characters, exactly in order to avoid that exponential growth. And in the unlikely case that Unicode gets so many characters somehow, you can always…

Ok but what about all the cryptocurrency symbols? Those will probably accelerate the rate. Perhaps not by a significant or even measurable amount. Nonetheless, it's a great reason to start investigating a blockchain alternative to Unicode

The successful bitcoin sign proposal [1] explicitly deals with such a criticism:

> Will Unicode be flooded with symbols for many crypto-currencies?

> Most other crypto-currencies have learned from the difficulty that a non-Unicode symbol causes for Bitcoin, and use a symbol already in Unicode. For instance, Dogecoin uses Đ, Ethereum uses Ξ, Litecoin uses Ł, Namecoin uses ℕ, Peercoin uses Ᵽ and Primecoin uses Ψ. Some, like Ripple, use Roman capital letters (XRP), mimicking ISO 4217 currency codes.

> While it is possible another crypto-currency will have a non-Unicode symbol that is extensively used in text, this is unlikely.

I think this section was crucial for the eventual acceptance, because Unicode people do care (a lot) about long-term consequences of proposals.

[1] https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15229-bitcoin-sign.pdf

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> (C) the thunderbolt ↯ is commonly used for "not" or more specifically for dis-proof in this area Any examples?

High school physics and math as a major. I could scan you my scripts and papers if you're interested.....no won't. ;-D But maybe "commonly used" was maybe the wrong term. More appropriately: "sometimes" or "by some".

I have never seen it used as not once in maths or physics. "extremely rarely" perhaps.

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Usually called Little Free Libraries in the US. (The name is a little weird, because regular libraries are also free...)

The word "public" in "public library" is load bearing, you can't replace it with "regular", hence your confusion. Private libraries (mine for example) are not free, as in beer or otherwise.

There are two libraries near me that aren’t free - they charge an annual “membership” fee. One even operates more like an old blockbuster when it comes to newly released books. They charge a daily rental fee! It’s 25¢ a day, I believe.

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> ⋚ U+22DA LESS-THAN EQUAL TO OR GREATER-THAN > ⋛ U+22DB GREATER-THAN EQUAL TO OR LESS-THAN These are very interesting. What would be the use case for these?

Perhaps "has a comparison relation to"? So for any two numbers x and y, x ⋚ y is true, but "square ⋚ pentagon" is false.

More concretely, it's true only for real numbers - so -4 ⋚ 7 is true, but 3+2i ⋚ 5 is false.

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So Unicode has all these mysterious characters... but I would bet that it's still true that many people on the planet speaking common languages can't even type their name... This post is from 2015, and I'd love to know if unicode has added better support for non-English languages since then. https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/i-can-text-you-a-pile-of... Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_(Unicode_block)…

I was very surprised by your comment and by the article you linked that the name Aditya cannot be represented in Unicode. I think it can be represented: আদিত্য. I am not a Bengali-speaker, but I am familiar with the class of scripts to which the Bengali script belongs, abugidas. These scripts assume a vowel following every consonant. When two consonants occur one after the other in a word (a consonant cluster), this…

There was a lot of discussion [0] of that point when the Model View Culture article was originally posted 7 years ago.

It's complicated, but the author of the piece seems to take issue with how the character set was designed by the language authorities the UTC delegated to.

The whole comment thread is an interesting read.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9220147

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From the title I thought this was about some Uranium isotope.

U-237 exists and has a half-life of about six days; I can't think of a valid modifier that would add that C on the end, though. (Unless you're talking about a very specific isotopic composition of uranium methanide, I guess.)

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I still don't understand why Unicode has all these obscure symbols but they still haven't added all superscript/subscript numbers and letters https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6638471/why-does-the-uni... To quote a reply from the above StackOverflow thread: "So, they added a snowman with snow AND a snowman without snow , so that the weather forecaster of this world can avoid the dull snowflake , but we will never g…

> but they still haven't added all superscript/subscript numbers and letters That would triple the size of Unicode.

I mean they could at least add q.

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I generally (perhaps naively) think that going forward knowledge loss won't be much of an issue compared to our history. Surely the archeologists of the future won't have to wonder what some tool from our times was used for or what some symbol we currently use means… They will have Wikipedia and archive.org and whatnot! But that fantasy is not compatible with reality where we are already unable to find out what is th…

That presumes humans can access our (electronic) media and understand it, in some 8.000 years or further. There's no saying that there'll be a society capable of reading bits and bytes by then. Not just collapsed society -they'll hardly be interested in reading a random discussion on an orange forum for a niche group that lived 8000 years ago- but maybe even societies that are vastly technical superior to our own but…

It will probably be even worse in the future, given that internet subgroups form their own language dialects as a kind of shibboleth.

"Why do people in this group of wall drivers show off their wedding bands?"

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#189

no one knows what ⍼ is meant to represent Translation: Nothing came up on a Google search, and going to the library and looking in a book is hard. I see this more and more often these days. Bloggers claiming that there is no known origin for something, or inventing their own histories based on nothing more than internet searches. The internet is vast, but 99.9% of the world's history and information is not online for…

on the contrary, dude seems to have done pretty extensive research—did you read the article?

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no one knows what ⍼ is meant to represent Translation: Nothing came up on a Google search, and going to the library and looking in a book is hard. I see this more and more often these days. Bloggers claiming that there is no known origin for something, or inventing their own histories based on nothing more than internet searches. The internet is vast, but 99.9% of the world's history and information is not online for…

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