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Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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post #79

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> and I will not have changed its price at all Of course you will have, buying affects the price.

Marginally, but nowhere near to the extent that the price will change when the insider infortmation becomes public (unless I'm doing something crazy, like buying all available stock at any price below what I think the price will be).

In a world where insider trading is legal, why would you stick to small time trades?

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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post #90

I think Coinbase does fractional banking, I don't have any proof so not completely sure but you can judge yourself, this happened a few months ago: - nuCypher just randomly started going up on Binance - the price was still low on coinbase - the normal thing to do was to withdraw from coinbase and sell on binance "Oops withdrawal of nucypher is temporarily locked", it stayed locked for 8 hours, all the crypto subs on…

Coinbase regularly "goes down" or at least large amounts of users unable to login whenever there seems to be a "bank run" - which conveniently will help reduce the downward pressure on the price plummeting, so whatever billion dollar buffers or reserves waiting to buy during large selloffs they have - to also counter a total crash - would have pressure reduced on them as well; it might be a very short period of time…

Interestingly, trading for regular stocks on US exchanges is halted for many reasons including when the price moves too fast, a 10% move in 5 minutes automatically gives a 5 minute halt. https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=tradehaltcodes

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#113
post #78

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Couldn't this just be that they keep some amount in cold storage that's not super easily accessible?

8h? Iceage storage.

It is entirely reasonable to use hardware security modules that enforce timelocks for signing.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#114
post #81

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Anyone smart would use a new wallet each time.

There was a time when this would work. But as we've seen with high profile taken downs, the folks like those at Chainalysis make it incredibly hard to obfuscate with any degree of certainty.

This isn’t true for Monero.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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post #105
post #93

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No they don’t. You trade with other users not coinbase directly

Coinbase almost definitely acts as a market maker as well. I would be very surprised if they didn’t at least seed the order book a little before listing new pairs.

Further, Coinbase often lists some new assets on Coinbase earn where it gives them for free to users.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#116
post #105
post #93

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No they don’t. You trade with other users not coinbase directly

Coinbase almost definitely acts as a market maker as well. I would be very surprised if they didn’t at least seed the order book a little before listing new pairs.

The definitely do act as a market maker. This is probably just them getting some liquidity before listing. With Mina they literally announced such a thing. https://twitter.com/CoinbaseAssets/status/150671712249959629...

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#117
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coinbase regularly "goes down" or at least large amounts of users unable to login whenever there seems to be a "bank run" - which conveniently will help reduce the downward pressure on the price plummeting, so whatever billion dollar buffers or reserves waiting to buy during large selloffs they have - to also counter a total crash - would have pressure reduced on them as well; it might be a very short period of time…

Interestingly, trading for regular stocks on US exchanges is halted for many reasons including when the price moves too fast, a 10% move in 5 minutes automatically gives a 5 minute halt. https://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=tradehaltcodes

Yeah, the conventional financial markets are rigged, despite (or because?) of layers of regulation and "oversight" - the Robinhood-GME incident and banks/individuals that contributed to the 2008 crash getting off scott-free should have been enough to convince most individuals of this.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#118
I think that the best way for Coinbase to combat this is to make as much information public as possible in as close to real time. For example they have a listings website - make every application public in real time. If there are meetings about which asset to add then make the meeting public or the minutes immediately after the meeting. The only way this can be exploited is because there was some lag time between assets that were considered to be listed and the actual announcement.

It doesn't help that they have employed some highly unethical actors in the past and completely failed to do their due diligence. For example when they employed people that were involved in selling hacking tools to nation states that were used in human rights abuses.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#119
post #93
post #91

Why is everyone discounting the possibility that this is a Coinbase controlled account? They would surely need to purchase the tokens before they list them.

No they don’t. You trade with other users not coinbase directly

Do you have evidence that Coinbase doesn't provide liquidity for it's tokens? It's a pretty safe assumption.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

#120

Crypto fans want deregulated finance. Crypto fans get mad when deregulated finance is comically unfair. You really can’t make this up. Embrace this. It’s exactly what crypto is all about.

This is so on point.

To me, and many others active somewhere on the "regulated finance" spectrum, the way crypto kept going on and on how awesome "deregulation" is from a consumer standpoint was tragically ironic. The vast majority of regulation is there to protect market participants.

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