Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?
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Not the case; I work at a bank and we have widescale adoption of Kubernetes and cloud products (in fact most of the major banks do at this point) If you happen to be looking for a DevOps or SRE role, check a large banks job boards, you'll be surprised how many open roles are available.
The scope of IT at a JMPC or a BAML is massive, and has grown both through acquisition and organically over decades. Virtually any technology you can think of is most likely being used or (at least being supported) by some unit at the bank. In a recent year JPMC's IT spend was $12 billion. In my personal experience (at JPMC) I knew groups who were using Clojure and Scala (while my manager assured me such technology w…
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#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve always wondered how do they find people to work there, especially young people. Do you know their profile?
Most of the younger people have degrees in Computer Information Systems
Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?
#214They’re outside of the “tech” industry. Look at companies 200-300 on the Fortune 500; their IT group uses boring tech. Just fair warning: you seem to be under the assumption that “boring” means “straightforward and just makes sense.” It does not. If you’re looking for that… good luck! Update if you find somewhere and I’ll join you.
> They’re outside of the “tech” industry. Look at companies 200-300 on the Fortune 500; their IT group uses boring tech. If only it were so... A lot of teams in these companies are heavily into fad-chasing, so your random internal web app that has 1 user per hour will be deployed in fully-scalable manner on the company's k8s cluster (which is shit, because company didn't put nearly enough people into keeping it runni…
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#215Banking is pretty desperate for talent, probably because no one wants to suffer the complexity of the problem domain. I showed someone the models we use to track a customer implementation and they thought we were insane for even thinking this is a good business to be in. Because the problem domain of banking sucks so much, the tooling is necessarily simple and "unsexy". We like things that fit into a single VM/folder…
You are definitely working at a different bank than I was... Mine had an entire division focused just on internal technology and tooling. Which was actually a bit of a nightmare, because it led to things like building our own cloud with customized versions of off-the-shelf software. Because of course if you ask the internal technology group whether we should build a cloud or buy a cloud, what do you think the answer…
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A lot wanted Facebook for $500. Mind explaining what this means? Did they want content generation for posts? Or did they actually just want someone to post what they had on file? Or did they just want advertising help? My family has small businesses and I've thought about helping others, but the asks seem too all over the place.
>> A lot wanted Facebook for $500. > Mind explaining what this means? As a freelancer, what I’ve seen is requests for building a Facebook-scale social network with all the scalable infrastructure and other bells and whistles, mobile app integration, etc., sometimes for a specific community (lawyers, doctors, or some such), that offer $500 as total budget.
I've lost count of the number of customers who said "this should be easy, I'm sure you can knock it up in an afternoon" whilst I'm thinking there is probably two years work in what you are asking for.
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#217Pittsburgh, PA. Every big company here - PNC, UPMC, Highmark, Fedex, Norfolk Southern, Duquesne Light - will pay you $65-70k/year at most. I met an IT director at one of these companies who told me that open source is a communist movement and so he's banned it. The dress code is very relaxed - if you stay late all week you can earn jeans Fridays! At all of these companies you will be forced to use Internet Explorer 1…
Open source is as capitalist as it gets for the most part IMO. Public Github = company flexing or CV. Either way….
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#218Just leave your SF/VC bubble, move to a medium-sized European city and such jobs will be plentiful. Most likely you'll be maintaining internal business applications on uncool and legacy technology stacks. The value of these applications is mostly for the particular business and your experience wouldn't transfer easily to a new job. The upside is that job security is far greater there. Also, you'll have less opportuni…
And between income tax, payroll tax, sales tax, you'll be taking a substantial cut in income - for housing which is more expensive, colder weather, and less sunlight.
Housing isn't more expensive baring maybe the city centers of huge cities like Paris and London. But housing is much more evenly spread and better connected with transit, so you don't jump from uber expensive dense city core to very far away low density suburbs. Savings from healthcare and transportation, plus pensions, offset the taxes, mostly.