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Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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I did address this in a sibling comment - the exchanges are primarily used to buy and sell crypto to greater fools, and thus they are rooted in a greater fool scheme. The vast majority of use for crypto is speculation.

I assume the vast majority of crypto is actually Bitcoin and Ethereum. Do you characterize these as "speculation"?

I think most transactions made with those coins are speculative, yes.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Anyone smart would use a new wallet each time.

Not necessarily. If people buy after you trade then the value of your wallet goes up.

Could you explain further. I'm not sure I understand how this relates to the parent comment?

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Not necessarily. If people buy after you trade then the value of your wallet goes up.

Could you explain further. I'm not sure I understand how this relates to the parent comment?

It’s in their interest if other people copy their trades because the asset values will go up

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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The experiment wasn't even necessary - the Gilded Age was a libertarian's paradise with the gold standard and very little government regulation. What do we most associate with this era? Robber barons, utility monopolies screwing people over with ruthless business practices, confidence men and literal snake oil quack medicine. I genuinely can't think of a good (ie moral) reason to support the idea given how it is pred…

>The experiment wasn't even necessary - the Gilded Age was a libertarian'paradise with the gold standard and very little government regulation. What do we most associate with this era? Robber barons, utility monopolies screwing people over with ruthless business practices, confidence men and literal snake oil quack medicine. The rate of economic growth and improvement in people's living standards was much higher back…

So we can ignore that cancer used to be a guaranteed death sentence, polio was a thing, children got rickets, a septic wound could kill you, an ulcer wasn't a course of pills to get rid of, tuberculosis was rife.

The gilded age was no paradise and rose tinted views of the era just don't hold up to scrutiny.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Based on both my observations of the space and interaction with crypto people and the crypto market. I know people who work in crypto too. Your defensive kneejerk reaction doesn't serve as an opposing argument - if you think differently, all you need to do is provide some evidence.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." (Christopher Hitchens) You made the assertion, you claim to have evidence: the onus is on you to provide that evidence, otherwise how can anyone possibly challenge it?

I don't claim to have the evidence, I claim to have made an observation. If the parent wanted to make a counterargument they could do, it wouldn't have to be concretely evidence based because I'm not holding a forum conversation to the epistemological standard of a formal paper or proof. Just a good example or argument would be more compelling than just calling my opinion a kneejerk reaction.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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I don't know what the Gilded Age was (and too lazy to search) but, I quote "Over the past 160 years, life expectancy (from birth) in the United States has risen from 39.4 years in 1860, to 78.9 years in 2020"[1] so please do show some support for the affirmation "the average adult back then was much healthier". Unless you mean they all died healthy around 40 years of age - as in, they were totally healthy until 40 th…

While your point is absolutely true, note that life expectancy shouldn't be taken as the literal age most people die. It is the expected value of your age at death. Just like the expected value of a coin flip being heads is 0.5, but no coin is ever 0.5 heads. Life expectancy at birth in the times before modern medicine has always been dragged down significantly by the huge rate of infant mortality. It was more common…

That's the nice thing about statistics, we will always have outliers to cherry pick. One can play with the graph at will, but also US men life expectancy at 5yo increased from 55 to 80 in the last 150 years: https://mappinghistory.uoregon.edu/english/US/US39-01.html. That's without infant mortality.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Not necessarily. If people buy after you trade then the value of your wallet goes up.

Could you explain further. I'm not sure I understand how this relates to the parent comment?

Imagine you you had a magic button that suddenly increased demand for a volatile security any time you pressed it. That would be a fairly valuable thing for some people.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Modern society would collapse if insider trading was legal. It would about as well as making bribery legal.

That's absurd. Insider trading makes markets more efficient as the information enters the market earlier, allowing them to reach the correct price sooner. There's no insider trading laws in commodities or real estate, have those markets collapsed?

Insider trading prevents information from being available to all parties by definition. That argument essentially essentially means that a certain amount of people should be allowed be defrauded to find the correct market price.

Real estate is an especially bad example too because when selling a house you have to disclose any information about the property that may affect it's future value or risk legal action - but still real estate fraud continues.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Is this insider trading according to the law? Nonpublic information isn't being used to trade public stocks; it's being used to trade assets that don't appear to be regulated securities.

No, probably not. Nevermind that our own Congress regularly pulls this on us in the stock and real estate markets, insider trading happens all the time in various forms. The only difference here is that you can scan the chain for obvious forms of it.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Why is the SEC so slow to regulate cryptoassets? Literally everything that they combatted for stocks and traditional assets is now taking place in the crypto ecosystem.

Insider trading doesn't apply to most "traditional" assets either. Everyone's free to trade in FX and commodities for example.
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