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Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Insider trading should just be legal and fine. I mean politicians do it every day so I don’t see why normal people shouldn’t be allowed to. Or make it actually illegal not just “legal if you have enough resources”

Modern society would collapse if insider trading was legal. It would about as well as making bribery legal.

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Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Why wouldn't they? The risk of getting caught is virtually zero if you do it right and even if you get caught you get a slap on the wrist and a fine at best. It's just pathetic that for a company which so hard tries to legitimize crypto they have issues like this over and over again. The inherent nature of a "get rich quick" ecosystem where the incentives to pull all kinds of shady and illegal actions are too high an…

In the world of cryptocurrency, even the wrist slap isn't a given. To me, cryptocurrency has been a very cool social experiment in what pure unregulated free market capitalism would work like in practice. Supposedly in place of regulations, companies would live on reputation and trustworthy business practices. If you use poisonous lead in your soup cans, people will stop buying your soup when word gets out, no need t…

The experiment wasn't even necessary - the Gilded Age was a libertarian's paradise with the gold standard and very little government regulation. What do we most associate with this era? Robber barons, utility monopolies screwing people over with ruthless business practices, confidence men and literal snake oil quack medicine.

I genuinely can't think of a good (ie moral) reason to support the idea given how it is predicted to, and has been shown to, play out.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Why wouldn't they? The risk of getting caught is virtually zero if you do it right and even if you get caught you get a slap on the wrist and a fine at best. It's just pathetic that for a company which so hard tries to legitimize crypto they have issues like this over and over again. The inherent nature of a "get rich quick" ecosystem where the incentives to pull all kinds of shady and illegal actions are too high an…

Economically speaking insider trading represents a net positive for the market as it brings information onto the market sooner, allows it to reach a better price sooner. The only people hurt by insider trading are those to whom the person doing insider trading has a fiduciary duty, which for a Coinbase employee would be Coinbase itself.

Other markets like commodities and real estate have gotten along perfectly fine without any insider trading laws.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Unsurprising as I said before [0], after what happened with OpenSea [1], Internet Computer [2] and now ApeCoin [3], you get this. This is how they pump and dump on retail over again. Rinse and repeat. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30725449 [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/opensea-insider-trading-rumo... [2] https://startupsandecon.substack.com/p/you-dont-own-web3-a-c... [3] https://www.financemagnates.c…

I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find a crypto business that isn't rooted in some kind of scam, greater fool scheme, pyramid scheme, or the like. The whole industry is a mess.

And you think this on what basis? Engagement with the space, or your emotional knee jerk reactions to the occasional headline you read?

This comment comes across utterly unserious.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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post #8

Insider trading should just be legal and fine. I mean politicians do it every day so I don’t see why normal people shouldn’t be allowed to. Or make it actually illegal not just “legal if you have enough resources”

Modern society would collapse if insider trading was legal. It would about as well as making bribery legal.

That's absurd. Insider trading makes markets more efficient as the information enters the market earlier, allowing them to reach the correct price sooner.

There's no insider trading laws in commodities or real estate, have those markets collapsed?

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Is this insider trading according to the law? Nonpublic information isn't being used to trade public stocks; it's being used to trade assets that don't appear to be regulated securities.

This was my question as well. Id assume its a grey area and that the sec could come after them if they wanted. Whether they would win is anorher story

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Insider trading should just be legal and fine. I mean politicians do it every day so I don’t see why normal people shouldn’t be allowed to. Or make it actually illegal not just “legal if you have enough resources”

This is a hilariously misinformed take, indicative of reading news in a bubble. The cryptosphere benefits when folks like you don your tin foil hats. You do realize the amount of scrutiny is far greater, affects all individuals above a certain pay grade at publicly traded companies, and that regulation continuously evolves? Protections against wash and insider trades are an important consumer protection but crypto ad…

Insider trading laws, to the extent they work, make the market less efficient because they delay the entry of information into the market. The majority of markets outside of equities, like real estate, don't have insider trading laws yet have managed perfectly fine.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Is this insider trading according to the law? Nonpublic information isn't being used to trade public stocks; it's being used to trade assets that don't appear to be regulated securities.

It's not illegal but that's the very reason why some things got regulated in the first place.

Re: Insider Trading at Coinbase

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find a crypto business that isn't rooted in some kind of scam, greater fool scheme, pyramid scheme, or the like. The whole industry is a mess.

And you think this on what basis? Engagement with the space, or your emotional knee jerk reactions to the occasional headline you read? This comment comes across utterly unserious.

Based on both my observations of the space and interaction with crypto people and the crypto market. I know people who work in crypto too.

Your defensive kneejerk reaction doesn't serve as an opposing argument - if you think differently, all you need to do is provide some evidence.

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