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Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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Note : I invested in more than 20 startups and I’m a founder myself. The best way is : 1 find someone you know who started a startup in your area, Or ask a founder during an interview or during a meet up or directly on LinkedIn. Spend 30min to 1h with them and ask about their pre-seed and seed round there is a 99% chance that Business angels were included in these rounds. Explain that you want to invest and if they w…

Also : as a matter of fact there are 2 kind of startups ; the one that have overcommitted financing round and the one are under committed / struggling getting financing.

If the startup is looking for money meaning case 2 : not sure it’s a good idea to invest at the begging unless you know what you are doing

In case 1/ if it’s overcommitted remember that there is a limited amount of capital in a company and the founder doesn’t need money (he is over committed) he/she is looking for smart money : meaning if you want to be in the cap table : bring smartness. There is no free lunch ;-)

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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Be friends with university or trade school professors and ask them to keep an eye out for students starting start-ups. Maybe make occasional small but effectfull donations to budgets.

It might also be worth not going for the professors but people a bit further down the leader.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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It's interesting that you don't say what you have to offer an early tech startup other than money. I mention that because the best startups are in a position to get more than money from investors. If all you have is money, you're looking for early startups that are reasonably likely to succeed but don't need more than money.

as an ex-founder and not an investor, I always found this discussion to be disingenuous.

everyone claims to be bringing unquantifiable value to the table, and the only investors that actually do are mostly bringing their top-tier name and possibly some support functions coming out of the gate like specialized legal or recruiting. sure, sometimes you get a hire, sales lead, or business partnership .. but you also have to coddle them and it seems like thats a wash. I guess there is advice, some of which is pretty valuable, but its hard to filter that out from the overly general platitudes.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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Become an accredited investor, if you have enough money: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/what-is-accredited-...

There are sites like wefunder.com for the average American, but these are the investments that traditional investors passed on, so most of them aren't great.

Fig.co looked good for games, but has gone bad, since Tim Schafer joined Microsoft.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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Note : I invested in more than 20 startups and I’m a founder myself. The best way is : 1 find someone you know who started a startup in your area, Or ask a founder during an interview or during a meet up or directly on LinkedIn. Spend 30min to 1h with them and ask about their pre-seed and seed round there is a 99% chance that Business angels were included in these rounds. Explain that you want to invest and if they w…

What's the advantage of going with an Angel instead of the YC/VC route?

What kind of startups do you invest in? How much do you typically invest?

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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post #25

Note : I invested in more than 20 startups and I’m a founder myself. The best way is : 1 find someone you know who started a startup in your area, Or ask a founder during an interview or during a meet up or directly on LinkedIn. Spend 30min to 1h with them and ask about their pre-seed and seed round there is a 99% chance that Business angels were included in these rounds. Explain that you want to invest and if they w…

What's the advantage of going with an Angel instead of the YC/VC route? What kind of startups do you invest in? How much do you typically invest?

YC or Heavybit is generalist has a some strong content with playbook and so but will take a 7% (if I'm correct) of your capital for YC and I think 700K for HeavyBit.

An angel typically will put between 10K for small ones to 150K for big ones with big names and network taking way less capital and having actionable insights / network.

Angels are people not institutions and are more willing to help on a daily basis using their names and leverage their network putting their reputation or time on the table because they believe in you VS a YC where you are 1 among thousands and YC depends on who you have to manage you. Ive heard they have an amazing content and network, they have a strong branding, YC brands will help you hire, market your product. but it's more a factory while Angel are more the expert / goldsmith.

YC and VC (in general) are shares driven requesting X% of your capital in general while angels and heavybit are money driven asking to put a certain amount of money without looking at a minimum amount of shares this money would represents (again it's generalist)

Both/Three are complementary bringing different things on the table.

Personally invested in AI, Fintech, InsurTech, Quantum computing.

Started Small helping a friend of a friend with his AI startup (my expertise) and ended up investing in pre-seed.

Then a guy who was also an Angel round also in the pre-seed started a company and ask for my expertise on tech in general (like guidance around architecture and later ML/AI problems etc...) => they asked me to get into their pre-seed.

Then we got along well and started creating a syndicat of 10 people : bringing each other the smartest people we know that were willing to invest/get involve into our syndicat.

Then invested In companies : founders liked the value => some of them joined the syndicat later

each year we would open angel "applications" : all of us bringing the smartest people we know with different expertise (startup specialized lawyers, social network specialist, retail, online distribution, fintech, web3, infrastructure, product management, etc...) Also everyone has it's own network which make this tentacular very quickly and Founders LOVE this as it's helping them to accelerate super super quickly.

we are now 30+ and it brings even more value and speed/faster time to market to founder.

Local/close to founder expertise => global impact that the job of the BA

my twitter @jilijeanlouis if you want to DM me.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the advantage of going with an Angel instead of the YC/VC route? What kind of startups do you invest in? How much do you typically invest?

YC or Heavybit is generalist has a some strong content with playbook and so but will take a 7% (if I'm correct) of your capital for YC and I think 700K for HeavyBit. An angel typically will put between 10K for small ones to 150K for big ones with big names and network taking way less capital and having actionable insights / network. Angels are people not institutions and are more willing to help on a daily basis usin…

Thanks, I'm working on some projects and am weighing my options regarding funding. The timing also needs to be right.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YC or Heavybit is generalist has a some strong content with playbook and so but will take a 7% (if I'm correct) of your capital for YC and I think 700K for HeavyBit. An angel typically will put between 10K for small ones to 150K for big ones with big names and network taking way less capital and having actionable insights / network. Angels are people not institutions and are more willing to help on a daily basis usin…

Thanks, I'm working on some projects and am weighing my options regarding funding. The timing also needs to be right.

absolutely and what I'm saying is super generalist. I know some VCs that really really hands-on and BA that won't do anything except bringing their branding. So it's not white or black ; like always it's grey.

Happy to chat : MD me on twitter

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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post #15

It's interesting that you don't say what you have to offer an early tech startup other than money. I mention that because the best startups are in a position to get more than money from investors. If all you have is money, you're looking for early startups that are reasonably likely to succeed but don't need more than money.

as an ex-founder and not an investor, I always found this discussion to be disingenuous. everyone claims to be bringing unquantifiable value to the table, and the only investors that actually do are mostly bringing their top-tier name and possibly some support functions coming out of the gate like specialized legal or recruiting. sure, sometimes you get a hire, sales lead, or business partnership .. but you also have…

yes you're right. thanks why I said : actually help founder with what you know the best, do pro bono and build your reputation to get over the platitude and noise and build a "doer" reputation and of course act according to it.

Re: Ask HN: How do I find early stage startups to invest in?

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YC or Heavybit is generalist has a some strong content with playbook and so but will take a 7% (if I'm correct) of your capital for YC and I think 700K for HeavyBit. An angel typically will put between 10K for small ones to 150K for big ones with big names and network taking way less capital and having actionable insights / network. Angels are people not institutions and are more willing to help on a daily basis usin…

Thanks, I'm working on some projects and am weighing my options regarding funding. The timing also needs to be right.

Personal opinion there : If you don't have any network or don't know the funds that much get an experienced business angel in your region. You want the right equity story ; meaning not all funds are equals ; the BA must leverage it's network of other founder so that you better understand the landscape + have an actual view on who's doing what and what is there value prop.

It's very likely that when you are ready this BA will connect you to its fund network or the founder that he/she introduced you to will recommend the fund that financed them to take a look at your project.

this is how you start the wheel spinning but it's not a golden ticket and honestly if you project is not good or you don't show the right energy etc... It will help you to start car but won't do the ride for you.

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