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Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#1
Everything is double-digit YOY growth with impending exit, and kubernetes all-the-things, and DevSecOps, and SRE, and web-scale etc etc.

Where are the places running their setup out of a rack in a rando datacenter grandfathered into an affordable Edgecast plan running a LAMP stack on Debian using borg for backups?

This may read like satire, but I promise I'm seriously asking.

Or am I just way too old?

Related: https://boringtechnology.club/

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#3
> Everything is double-digit YOY growth with impending exit

I'm going to say, on a random job board, this is actually the vast minority of jobs. Most, even at FAANG, have lots of unsexy maintenance that just needs to get done. Even in fancy machine learning land (where I work) 99% of the work is fairly 'boring' in the traditional sense.

Also, there is a strong bias to talk about 'sexy' work outside the company. For a variety of dev marketing reasons. Nobody does a conference talk about the uninteresting boring work that gets done.

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#8
My impression is that there's a lot of Kubernetes jobs because all those unnecessary scaling tools come with additional maintenance work. So if you use new & messy technology, you just need more people. My boring deployments (Nginx+Ruby+PostgreSQL on Debian) can be maintained for multiple projects by just one employee, because there isn't that much to do apart from updating Ansible scripts and running them. But on the Ruby side, stuff gets deprecated/broken all the time, so we need much more manpower to maintain it. And Docker/Kubernetes (where everything depends on access to random GitHub URLs) is even a lot more fragile than that.

EDIT: I was considering doing this myself recently, so maybe you'll like the idea, too: Just walk physically to all the mom&dad shops in your area and ask them if they want a free website, if they allow you to put Google text ads on the side. If you have time, you can build those websites and super cheaply host them themselves, and it'll certainly help those shops get their feet wet in the digital age. Plus you build up some ad/link inventory which you can monetize later. The reason why I considered doing it is because I'm 100% sure that people will tell you a lot of technical stuff that they need solved, if you're there and willing to listen. And those small shops are going to need small cloud-free solutions.

Re: Ask HN: Where can we find the unsexy jobs?

#9
The middle ground between the places trying to be mini-googles and places running their own server under a desk has been squeezed pretty hard by SaaS/PaaS stuff - you either run your small business entirely on other people's services and sweat OR you have a big enough budget to have the faux-SRE experience.

In my experience only owners who had enough momentum from previous businesses with that setup or who just maintained a fairly small pool of revenue (and so didn't change.)

Also the economy went through a lot of M&A because its hard in the middle, failures are catastrophic, and paying some guy who will probably take you to beer lunches to host your stuff makes you look smart to all the other up and coming CEOs.

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