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Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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throwaway290 wrote: post #19
ATsch wrote: post #2

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Many details are not that difficult to cross-check. Similar stories (typically involving mixed part-Uyghur families torn apart by Chinese government) are abound on social media. BBC, others reported extensively on other victims as well as relevant findings from satellite imagery etc. From my understanding this is less about uncovering some categorically new information, but more about someone able to testify in court…

I think this is somewhat optimistic about the degree to which the goal is going to be to uncover the actual truth vs painting the worst possible picture they can to justify whatever interventions they have planned.

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Post by lenkite »

BobbyJo wrote: post #24
ATsch wrote: post #20

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> US' own actions show that their supposed concern about the Xinjiang prisoners is wholly disingenuous point scoring. How do you feel about Xinjiang?

Terrible. But I felt terrible about Guantanamo Bay too. Still open by the way.

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propagandist wrote: post #12
plouffy wrote: post #8

Holly molly, the whatsaboutism in these comments.

If a had a penny every time ... There needs to be a better response to pointing out hypocrisy. If you care about China's abuses but not ours and our allies, you do not have the moral high ground, and morality is a political tool to you.

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Post by puszczyk »

propagandist wrote: post #12
plouffy wrote: post #8

Holly molly, the whatsaboutism in these comments.

If a had a penny every time ... There needs to be a better response to pointing out hypocrisy. If you care about China's abuses but not ours and our allies, you do not have the moral high ground, and morality is a political tool to you.

Have you tired to raise specific US abuses here on HN? What was the response?

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Post by colanderman »

ATsch wrote: post #20
plouffy wrote: post #8

Holly molly, the whatsaboutism in these comments.

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I for one am interested in the results, not the purity of motivation.

If China in turn does something to further the release of Gitmo detainees, all the better.

Show me that article, I'll upvote it, and downvote all the whataboutism from Westerners about China.

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Post by VerminOctopus1 »

propagandist wrote: post #7

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People get upset by these “whataboutism” posts but they’re perfectly legitimate points to make. It’s good to interrogate the media that we consume and to consider the conditions that would lead to an article like this being produced and published.

Side note, there’s been a flood of anti-China content on this website lately, it’s odd.

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Post by tabokie »

throwaway290 wrote: post #19
ATsch wrote: post #2

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Many details are not that difficult to cross-check. Similar stories (typically involving mixed part-Uyghur families torn apart by Chinese government) are abound on social media. BBC, others reported extensively on other victims as well as relevant findings from satellite imagery etc. From my understanding this is less about uncovering some categorically new information, but more about someone able to testify in court…

I'm glad you mentioned. Those satellite images are jokes to most Chinese people. In fact, the western media's coverage of Xinjiang has demonstrated your hypocrisy to those of us who didn't know it before. After this, I think it's safe to say that western mainstream media has lost its credibility in China. Some of us (not me) don't even believe Bucha massacre, just because we heard it from your mouths.

Just for your consideration, I'm a pretty liberal person and I don't like my government more than you do. And I have plans to immigrate to EU in near future.

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