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Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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I think it’s more what you’re used to.

I use Windows and macos daily and I sorta prefer the mac’s window management, but they both work fine once you know what you’re doing. In some cases macos just has different keystrokes that the author doesn’t know yet, and in others you just manage windows a little differently (or use an app if you don’t want to adjust).

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #137

> Package management This always floors me when I have to use a non-Linux computer. The difference between package management on Linux and other OSes is shocking. Dnf, Yum, Pacman are all so convenient and straightforward. I can't understand why Windows and MacOS don't have anything official that fills this gap.

They do. On Windows it's msi, and Mac it's pkg. But, for whatever reason folks have preferred to build their own package solution instead of learning the OS native approach. I'm guessing because building your own makes for an easier end user CLI experience.

Microsoft made the mistake of adding non-deterministic behaviour to MSI files, because without that the package format is pretty much everything I'd want out of a software packaging system.

I think companies wanted to stuff branding and ads into their installers, so MSI files fell out of use. Modern Windows seems to prefer msix and other weird UWP-based formats, but I don't think you can just install those.

What Windows is missing though, is a clean way to manage these MSI files. A reinstall or an uninstall shouldn't take twenty windows and four different "next" buttons to process. When Microsoft created the Microsoft Store, they neglected to also add a command line option for installation (you can manually install a package, but you'll need to do updates yourself from what I can tell). Just add a Powershell command like "MSStore-Install" and the entire ecosystem would be so much nicer to use!

I suppose this is what they're trying to do with WinGet, after forking AppGet and leaving the original project to die. For some reason they like to reinvent the wheel every time someone thinks of a new way to install binaries onto a computer.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #87

My recommendations for Mac Users: * Put the Dock left or right, vertical space is precious (trust me, do it for a week and then decide) * Setup Hot-Corners (Settings -> Mission Control -> Hot Corners) - Upper-Right Corner as Mission Control (Must be upper right so spaces are immediately shown) - Lower-Left Corner as Application Windows - just fling your mouse curser into the corner (use std. gestures on the trackpad)…

I couldn't imagine navigating macOS without gestures. Great on touchpad, non-existent on any comfortable third-party mouse (the magic mouse is made for toddlers apparently.. I don't even have particularly large hands).

Thankfully someone made an LUA script for the Logitech G app to use one of the random buttons on my gaming mouse to imitate three-finger swipes, which feels great: https://github.com/mark-vandenberg/g-hub-mouse-gestures/blob...

I also am not a huge fan of Finder. Might be able to tweak so that the list view is default but crazy to me that you'd have folders and files just floating around in space.

All that being said I went from lifelong Windows user to being fully onboard with Mac once I started developing professionally. PC gaming is the only reason I have a Windows machine at all. Windows is just gnarly, from the kernel to the UI.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't get used to the fact that I can't alt-tab to a minimized window. Nor can I figure out how to switch to any particular minimized window. You have literally no way of knowing that a minimized window exists other than right-clicking the dock icon, or going to the "Window" menu after you switched to the application. The dock was fine 20 years ago when they released OSX, but they've literally done nothing to make…

Ok, so you can actually do this but the keyboard sequence is a bit bonkers. * Hold down Command and press Tab until the application icon representing the minimised window is highlighted. * Release Tab but DONT let go of Command. * Now press Option too so you are holding down Command + Option * Now release Command so you are just holding down Option * Finally release Option Amazingly this will then maximise the window…

You can also tab to the application, hit the up arrow and use the arrow keys to select the minimized window then hit enter.

In fact, my command-tab workflow is: command-tab to open the Switcher and then arrows to switch application/window

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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>you use what they give you, how they give it to you, using their workflows, barely customizing anything. Apple products are supposed to be revered the world over as the pinnacle of design, used by artists, engineers, professionals, and creators. Why do I feel like there are training wheels on a machine I use for productivity? Gosh, this is exactly how I felt in a similar situation. Really hit the nail on the head. I…

What are people doing with their computers that a Mac is so stifling? I'm late to the Mac game, have been on it for about a decade, and was a 15-year Windows and Linux desktop user before that. Still, I don't even know what it might be.

If you are used to using gnu user land you’ll be using a utility like brew to install the gnu components. The bsd counterparts are just off enough to find something a bit off on most of them.

I really dislike finder. I’ve not found a sane replacement.

Updates for me took 10-15 minutes. Rebooting a few times. Relegated to answering slacks on phone during that time.

Office is also awful on the Mac. I wound up using office in a windows VM because a lot of stuff was broken opening complex documents.

My newest job I asked for a windows laptop. WSL2 is ok. I just run vscode connected to wsl and do my work there and use native office. Those two apps, postman, and chromium (chrome and slack) is really my stack and it works well enough. I would rather use Linux but our IT department have a big thumbs down since they have no clue what they are doing regarding securing that.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #64
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it's right or wrong, but the behavior dates back to the very first implementations of Mac OS and Windows. Mac OS has always been an application switching interface, and Windows has been a window switching interface. Takes getting used to the paradigm shift.

I can't get used to the fact that I can't alt-tab to a minimized window. Nor can I figure out how to switch to any particular minimized window. You have literally no way of knowing that a minimized window exists other than right-clicking the dock icon, or going to the "Window" menu after you switched to the application. The dock was fine 20 years ago when they released OSX, but they've literally done nothing to make…

Open the "Mission Control" settings in System Preferences to see what key sequence you have assigned to "Application Windows". While you are there you might also click "Hot Corners..." and check if "Application Windows" is assigned to a hot corner.

Invoke "Application Windows" and it will show you all the visible windows of the current application tiled so you can see them all, and it will show you all the minimized windows of the current application across the bottom of the screen. (Some applications, such as TextEdit and BBEdit also show recent documents there).

While in the "Application Windows" ctrl-tab cycles between all open apps while remaining in "Applications Windows" view.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #64
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that it's right or wrong, but the behavior dates back to the very first implementations of Mac OS and Windows. Mac OS has always been an application switching interface, and Windows has been a window switching interface. Takes getting used to the paradigm shift.

I can't get used to the fact that I can't alt-tab to a minimized window. Nor can I figure out how to switch to any particular minimized window. You have literally no way of knowing that a minimized window exists other than right-clicking the dock icon, or going to the "Window" menu after you switched to the application. The dock was fine 20 years ago when they released OSX, but they've literally done nothing to make…

I also prefer Windows default behavior to macOS in this respect.

I find macOS alt-tab'ing works better for me with the addition of https://contexts.co/

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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post #56

I have never spent much time on Windows machines but I _love_ cmd-` on the Mac. I mean, I have a whole rant about how its ordering behavior changed on Lion for the worse but I love having windows grouped by application and picking the app I care about before picking the window I care about. I have never understood why so many people use a single chrome window for all of their tabs but I think it comes from not being…

Yeah, Fluid is great for that. I also use it for any streaming station I frequent, so I never have to worry about accidentally closing a browser tab.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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Despite the warning, I didn't find it nearly as "ranty" as the author cautioned, and instead seemed like a fairly comprehensive and fair take on his experience. Having gone through the same thing myself several years ago, the UI aspect of it is something that I'd be curious to see how it develops for the author. I think it is not uncommon for Windows folk to find the windowing experience on macs rather painful, at le…

What I miss most in macOS is Super + Left and Super + Right to tile windows left and right..

It doesn’t have a keyboard shortcut by default, but you can bind 'Move Window to the Left Side of the Screen' and 'Move Window to the Right Side of the Screen' in Keyboard > Shortcuts > App Shortcuts.

Re: Impressions from a first-time Mac user

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The OP probably didn't spend much time with macOS. Here is a more serious rant with macOS:

1. The Spotlight program will randomly consume 100% of your CPU while you are doing actual work.

2. The iCloud integration will decide to disappear your desktop/document folders when you most need them, and nobody understand how that thing works.

3. macOS safety features not allowing you to install some software. Worse, it doesn't give you a hint that it is the responsible party.

4. macOS parental control blocks randomly your localhost, failing some requests. Spend 6-10 hours investigating to find out the real culprit. Good luck deactivating that.

And these are just on the top of my head and I hadn't used macOS in the last two years. I can't imagine what a cluster-fff it must be right now with all the crap they have been adding.

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