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Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

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Who do they think they are? Time is money, they might as well be lighting dollar bills on fire

Reminds me of a guy who put out a video saying that anyone that cooks or bakes is a loser since they could spend that time making money and just buy food from stores/restaurants.

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

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A distinction is made between being idle and napping, but are the researchers sure they aren't just resting? When I work outside on hot days I often take breaks in the shade where I just sit and stare. I'm not hungry or thirsty and it's not time to clean up yet, but I need a break. >The median adult spent ~27% of their waking time doing nothing 20-30% idleness sounds like a perfect description of the cumulative break…

It's another study typical of social scientists who don't understand statistics trying to pass off their political views as science. If you look at the graphs presented the 95% confidence intervals range from no correlation to positive to negative correlation, sometimes in the same graph. And R^2 is sub 0.3 which means even the correlative effect is incredibly weak. Yet somehow the authors come to the conclusion that…

I'll take the social scientists who have man-decades of direct observation and interaction with said tribes over your random layman speculation.

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

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I live in the USA, and at least for me, the activity of doing nothing is alive and well. I can sit in our living room, outside, or under a tree on a trail behind our house for quite a while before I start to get bored.

Sometimes I waste time on the web and sometimes doing nothing.

re: the article: as someone else here said, I did wonder if some people in non-industrial societies are just resting.

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's another study typical of social scientists who don't understand statistics trying to pass off their political views as science. If you look at the graphs presented the 95% confidence intervals range from no correlation to positive to negative correlation, sometimes in the same graph. And R^2 is sub 0.3 which means even the correlative effect is incredibly weak. Yet somehow the authors come to the conclusion that…

I'll take the social scientists who have man-decades of direct observation and interaction with said tribes over your random layman speculation.

When you have the data in hand and you're still making appeals to authority, you've lost the plot entirely.

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

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I've spend most of my day today napping and watching youtube and a bit of doom scrolling. With less technology, that would be categorized as mostly nothing.

I feel that what technology has changed is that we have something to do that is in actuality nothing. Watching Youtube, browsing news or reading HN and posting some comments really are for me doing nothing... Not that you couldn't do something in there, but I think many of the ways we spend time is doing nothing.

We just have something to do while we do nothing. Back in time we did not.

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

#29

Who do they think they are? Time is money, they might as well be lighting dollar bills on fire

Reminds me of a guy who put out a video saying that anyone that cooks or bakes is a loser since they could spend that time making money and just buy food from stores/restaurants.

Hmm, now I think about it. Can't say about baking, but with cooking is there some sub-section of food that might actually be more cost effective to cook yourself? Let's say good quality steak. The markups in restaurants are substantial and time commitment for cooking might not be too big...

Re: One of the most popular activities in non-industrial societies: doing nothing

#30
As appears in Debt by David Graeber [0]:

Missionary: Look at you! You’re just wasting your life away, lying around like that.

Samoan: Why? What do you think I should be doing?

Missionary: Well, there are plenty of coconuts all around here. Why not dry some copra and sell it?

Samoan: And why would I want to do that?

Missionary: You could make a lot of money. And with the money you make, you could get a drying machine, and dry copra faster, and make even more money.

Samoan: Okay. And why would I want to do that?

Missionary: Well, you’d be rich. You could buy land, plant more trees, expand operations. At that point, you wouldn’t even have to do the physical work anymore, you could just hire a bunch of other people to do it for you.

Samoan: Okay. And why would I want to do that?

Missionary: Well, eventually, with all that copra, land, machines, employees, with all that money—you could retire a very rich man. And then you wouldn’t have to do anything. You could just lie on the beach all day.

[0]: https://timothynoah.substack.com/p/the-guy-who-explained-wha...

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