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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Lawns—especially front lawns—are connected to a weirdly-large number of problems in the US, when you think about it. Noise pollution, excessive water use, more driving (all those barely-used front lawns take up a ton of space, which pushes everything farther apart by a significant distance). Fuel use and air pollution (mowing, trimming, those damn leaf blowers—though at least some of this is going electric).

> Lawns—especially front lawns—are connected to a weirdly-large number of problems in the US Adding to that list: The poisoning of every downstream waterway for miles. The further south you go, the worse it is.

Oh yeah, good point. And since they're manicured and sprayed with all kinds of pesticides (and lots of fertilizer, which contributes to the downstream poisoning you note) they're not even helpful for any kind of preservation of natural life. They'd like some kind of taxidermied version of a healthy natural environment.

Driveways can, admittedly, be handy but you don't need a whole lawn for that. Just turn the driveway sideways and butt the whole thing up against the road. Boom, just as much parking and space for trailers or cleaning your boat or whatever, and you can cut out a few meters of lot depth with minimal loss of functionality. Of course, building codes mandate lawns, so that can't happen. Meanwhile I dream of a world where everything's ~10% closer just because we don't have suburban front lawns.

I also sometimes wonder how many amazing parks we could have if half the money everyone put into maintaining their front lawns went to that, instead. Put half the money and half the land into that and we could have an awesome park on every other suburban block, and still save money and space.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

> People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US What stroke me the most during my trip to the US (Chicago) was: - the constant police sirens - the fact that cars come with a feature that allows you to find them with their key by making them honk. Here it is forbidden to honk in cities (though people do it all the time, sigh ).

> the fact that cars come with a feature that allows you to find them with their key by making them honk.

Equally awesome is a beepy, late-shift neighbor who's driveway is right by your bedroom window.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

and the dogs. Don't forget about the fucking barking dogs that get left alone outside all day long and sometimes into the night as well.

That and hours of bass. It's really hard to tell which one is worse.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours and told me its my problem. Like maybe if you got a full night of sleep you wouldn't be so angry? I guess this study supports that. The noise in my current apartment is endless, car alarms, screaming and crying kids along with their loud toys, idling cars, the…

> instruments being practiced As a musician... although I understand that, in the end, instrument practice is still noise, it hurts to see this listed among the rest of your items. Last year, I had to move out of an apartment complex because our neighbors would not tolerate even 30 minutes of practice a day (in spite of the ~2 daily hours of lawn care racket, but whatever) and complained to building management. I get…

Its torturous. I threatened to walk out..i can tolerate the alto but it was either me or the tenor sax. At one point, my teeth started hurting every time sax practice began. The pandemic had brought in seven musical instruments into our home and sometimes extended practice sessions. And voice lessons for the last two months. I wear headphones all the time now..but the downside is that I can't hear myself.

Here is what we did..i am learning an instrument too..so we sat down one day and figured out set timetables for practice. there is a way to soundproof a room..with foam panels. We got an electric sax which is brilliant because it can be practiced with headphones and has three instrument choices for clarinet, flute and sax. The controller can also be used with headphones.

Rent studio space with other friends or a friend's shed. Digital instruments are your friend. It is the future anyways. We have also vetoed drums as a family decision and that's mostly because we have pets. Tabla is ok and a lot of times i only need the metronome. I also use an app called iTabla for my sitar practice and I can control the volume.

The best solution is to find a friend who has space and tolerant neighbours.

Oh!! And curtains..there are scurtains that absorb sound. I don't know if its effective, but I found them at Costco and replaced all the nice curtains with ugly heavy sound absorbing curtains. Because. Music.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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post #398

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How did landscape maintenance workers perform that task before leaf blowers?

You didn't have trees in lawns, basically. Look at the pictures of old English manors - there would be hedges next to grass lawns but the trees were few and far between in the lawns. The areas of the garden with trees would be a different thing.

I don't know about England, but trees were common in American lawns since long before leaf blowers existed.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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This is one of the top reasons for preferring single-family detached housing. I lived in apartments for many years, and when I moved to a house I felt like I could finally relax for the first time in years . For the people advocating for high density housing to alleviate suburban sprawl and all of its environmental problems, I do appreciate the importance of that, but if I can avoid living in an apartment again I am…

I feel so much relaxed cranking up the volume when i need to once in a while and not get complaints, which are fair, but i get home from work after 9. And you got ta sleep but i gotta wind down.

Counter, i dont want the noise from upstairs doing god knows what. I moved out to detached and the only noise is the leaf blowers and occassional traffic

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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post #27

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I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours and told me its my problem. Like maybe if you got a full night of sleep you wouldn't be so angry? I guess this study supports that. The noise in my current apartment is endless, car alarms, screaming and crying kids along with their loud toys, idling cars, the…

The absolute best thing about leaving the US several years ago is the silence. I can go to bed every night knowing some random guy won't decide 3 AM on a Wednesday morning is the best day to crank up the bass to max and start a party. I can sleep knowing some old guy isn't going to compensate for his masculinity by revving up his modded motorcycle at 4:30 AM everyday. I can sleep knowing people aren't going to start…

Yes. Shut your music speaker off in the park and on the trail or wear headphones. That should be banned

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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post #27

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I had this "conversation" with my neighbor (it was more like me being yelled at) It kind of blew my mind they didnt care about noise interruptions at all hours and told me its my problem. Like maybe if you got a full night of sleep you wouldn't be so angry? I guess this study supports that. The noise in my current apartment is endless, car alarms, screaming and crying kids along with their loud toys, idling cars, the…

> instruments being practiced As a musician... although I understand that, in the end, instrument practice is still noise, it hurts to see this listed among the rest of your items. Last year, I had to move out of an apartment complex because our neighbors would not tolerate even 30 minutes of practice a day (in spite of the ~2 daily hours of lawn care racket, but whatever) and complained to building management. I get…

I would suggest sound proofing your studio. I love music but not the sound of music practice through the walls

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

#479
One of the things I felt caused enormous stress when I was in jail was the ceaseless incredible intensity of the noise. The noise was so loud most of the time that with the TV set to 100% volume it still could not be heard from 1 foot away with your hands cupped behind your ears to focus the sound (a common jail technique to watch TV). I always wondered what damage it was doing, beyond the obvious damage to my hearing.

[try setting your TV to 100% volume, put on the news, and sit a foot away and think how loud the surrounding noise has to be for you not to be able to hear the TV at all]

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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That as well. But it does feel very wrong that combustion engine users can emit huge amounts of noise and pollution while sitting in sound proof, HEPA filtered boxes.

The horn on automobiles should be mounted inside the cabin. They can make it as loud as they need to make it, but the person who hears it the loudest should be the driver.

I've often thought this should apply to motorcycles too. Motorcycle helmets would have speakers installed inside, wirelessly connected to the bike so that it produces realistic motorcycle sound effects when you operate the throttle.

This way, motorcycle enthusiasts could have all of their "loud pipe" thrills while riding a clean, silent electric motorcycle and not disturbing their neighbors!

For even more realism, vibrators could be installed in the seat to mimic a combustion engine's "vroom".

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