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New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Importantly, it appears some of their GPU comes from Imagination Technology. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/chinas-little-nvidia...

What rationale did the UK government use when approving Imagination being sold to a private equity firm controlled by the Chinese government?

IMG wasn't considered important enough to be a strategic asset unlike ARM. Remember IMG was on the verge of bankruptcy or collapse. Apple, representing 70% of their revenue will somehow no longer be paying them a single penny. They had lots of baggage that were not part of Graphics IP from Wireless, MIPS, to IoT.

ARM had Mali. So on the surface UK isn't really losing any strategic asset.

And you have to remember, this was in 2016 / 2017. The world still doesn't know a damn thing about China. ( or may be they do but they turned a blind eye to it )

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If you're reading a tech news coming out of China, and aren't thinking about politics, you're doing something wrong. Every tech company in China is in part owned or supported by the chinese government. Hard to talk about "independent tech". They're more like "national tech". Today and the next 50 years in tech is being defined by the competition between the two superpowers. Their national objectives differ vastly. Ch…

I really do not think a Taiwan invasion is imminent, at least short of a huge provocation.

Ha! I live in Kiev, Ukraine, and just 46 days ago I thought absolutely same about possible Russian invasion to Ukraine. Now I few days per week spend on finding products to eat, because we have real war and we have some problems with supply (I will not ask you to talk here about military needs, but they are also exists and they are very significant).

Now I thank to Gods, for my friends decisions, who where not agree with me and evacuated their families, before I change my mind.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're reading a tech news coming out of China, and aren't thinking about politics, you're doing something wrong. Every tech company in China is in part owned or supported by the chinese government. Hard to talk about "independent tech". They're more like "national tech". Today and the next 50 years in tech is being defined by the competition between the two superpowers. Their national objectives differ vastly. Ch…

>Every tech company in China is in part owned or supported by the chinese government. So it’s exactly like the US. >China: aiming to invade Taiwan China hasn’t invaded anyone for decades. US had.

> China hasn’t invaded anyone for decades

Do you know history? There where at least two big open struggles - against USSR and against India. Also there where lot of hidden interventions - to Vietnam, to Korea, to Afghanistan, where China don't look as main hero, but without their intervention, world will be totally different.

For example, without China intervention, we wouldn't have North Korea; probably capitalist South Vietnam would have survived and would be very strong player on world markets; we wouldn't have Taliban, which destroyed civilization level historical monuments; etc.

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post #136

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If you're reading a tech news coming out of China, and aren't thinking about politics, you're doing something wrong. Every tech company in China is in part owned or supported by the chinese government. Hard to talk about "independent tech". They're more like "national tech". Today and the next 50 years in tech is being defined by the competition between the two superpowers. Their national objectives differ vastly. Ch…

By report their economy is facing imminent collapse as a real estate bubble pops. I don't know whether this makes invasion of Taiwan soon more or less likely.

Sure, slowing of China economy will make invasion to Taiwan more likely, for same reasons for which Hitler and Putin invades neighbors - all empires need to constantly show their people wins, or they will collapse.

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It smells, China systematically prepare to seize Taiwan, so will got extremely hard sanctions, and they create their own CPUs, GPUs.

If this scares you wait until you hear about “Made in China 2025.”

Considering, I'm Ukrainian, just now in Kiev, and China avoiding to implement sanctions against Russia, I believe, I will not see anything from China in 2025.

Because all those "Made in China", now look for me, as made from Ukrainian blood.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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It smells, China systematically prepare to seize Taiwan, so will got extremely hard sanctions, and they create their own CPUs, GPUs.

If you've been paying any attention, denying access to cutting-edge chips to China is a key part of the US's plan for competition and/or conflict with China right now. Even if China has no intent to make any major moves anytime soon they'd be complete fools to not be trying to secure their own supply.

I must say, I partially agree with you. Just except one thing - I lived in USSR and I know too much about soviet (communists) outlook, and about non-fair play.

So what important - unfortunately, China is not fair player. - All soviet/communists spent significant resources for espionage, etc.

- Espionage is totally different from fair playing gathering information from open sources. For people with really good knowledge, these things are easy distinguishable.

And US sanctions against China where exactly because espionage, and because other non-fair play, not because competition.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

#189
post #110

It smells, China systematically prepare to seize Taiwan, so will got extremely hard sanctions, and they create their own CPUs, GPUs.

While I'm wary for Taiwan what does that have to do at all with this story??? This sort of sentiment reminds me of those Americans who want to stop drinking Vodka over the invasion of Ukraine.

I don't like to copy-paste my comments, but here is right place.

I live in Kiev, Ukraine, and just 46 days ago I thought nearly same about possible Russian invasion to Ukraine. Now I few days per week spend on finding products to eat, because we have real war and we have some problems with supply (I will not ask you to talk here about military needs, but they are also exists and they are very significant).

Now I thank to Gods, for my friends decisions, who where not agree with me and evacuated their families, before I change my mind.

And also I'm very enjoyed by decisions of NATO countries in Europe, to enhance their defense, because this is not the end.

- Predator will not calm down, when/if he capture Ukraine or Taiwan - he will continue looking for other capture opportunities - next could be Kazakhstan, or Vietnam, or South Korea, or even Japan. Just read history of Second World War - it have begin in Africa, and than where millions victims in Europe.

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But the market is how it is. I'm on an 1050Ti. Even this would be an upgrade if price/power consumption is right. I have strong doubts about power consumption though.

well, if you want to say "competes with 2017 nvidia," that i could agree with but i basically guarantee that they keep falling further and further behind.

2022 basically doesn't exist unless you're willing to overpay to have the latest and greatest :)
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