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What? And there are a lot of peoples' lives destroyed by greed. Does that mean you don't seek to make money? A greater percentage of water drinks drown than marijuana/lsd/mushroom users die from marijuana/etc usage. (As in, no one dies from them.)
That is a logical fallacy.
I will never understand how HN manages to be so (maybe relatively) anti-drug, even in a latent fashion on this topic. I do, not, understand this sentiment. For all of the things that HN does not take at face value, there is a blind acceptance of the "drugs are evil" viewpoint espoused (often exclusively in the face of their own studies, dozens of times, over 20 years ) by the United States Government. Downvote within…
I will never understand how HN manages to be so (maybe relatively) anti-drug, even in a latent fashion on this topic. I do, not, understand this sentiment. For all of the things that HN does not take at face value, there is a blind acceptance of the "drugs are evil" viewpoint espoused (often exclusively in the face of their own studies, dozens of times, over 20 years ) by the United States Government. Downvote within…
I've taken LSD and 'shrooms a few times, and while I can understand what Jobs is saying, I think he was wrong. I had mystical experiences where I thought I understood that the whole world was connected together, and I was connected to the world, and other deep insights. I think this was just brain-addled delusion, not any insight into how things really are. That said, I fully support these things being legal, and (fo…
I think the "brain-addled delusions" you describe can be appreciated as rare and useful shifts of your own perspective even if that's all they are. Sure, there's nothing supernatural about it, but you may still have valid insights which you wouldn't necessarily have arrived at during your morning commute.
Our mundane, day-to-day perspective on the world, on some level, is only distinguishable from "brain-addled delusion" because we're desensitized to it.
I wish that his article had delved more into the long term effects (benefits or otherwise) of taking psychedelic drugs rather than going off into a complaint about US drug policy. Anyone got interesting, concrete data to share rather than anecdotes about Steve Jobs?
"Anyone got interesting, concrete data to share rather than anecdotes about Steve Jobs?" Here are all of the Johns Hopkins studies on psilocybin: http://csp.org/psilocybin/ You might also be interested in going to Horizons if you're going to be in NYC this coming weekend: http://www.horizonsnyc.org It's all of the talks on the latest scientific research on psychedelics for therapeutic use. You can also watch many of…
I've never used illegal drugs, and I've never had a desire. However, the one problem we do have by keeping certain drugs illegal is that Americans are destroying countries, like Mexico, where a week doesn't by where a drug gang hasn't killed someone. Illegal drug money is used to finance so much corruption and killing, that there seems to be little value in keeping them illegal, especially considering that everyone w…
Mexico is already corrupt without the drugs. Making them legal will give the cartels even more power because they will now be able to legally sell drugs in the US.
They already have (and know how to run) multi-million dollar operations, you don't think they won't think about legally partnering up with companies in the US?
"If certain drugs do have harmful effects then at least the effects will be mostly limited to the people who take them."
Many people want government-run health care in the US. Legalizing illegal drugs will add to the already large amount of addicts. Do we really want more addicts in our hospitals? I also don't feel like I should be forced to pay for your poor life choices. Regular Drug users should immediately get a huge increase in healthcare costs.
We still have tons of people suing the cigarette companies because they cause cancer. I can only imagine how many lawsuits will be in our court systems if there is a company selling heroin.
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Everything is connected. It is understandable to discard insight on psychedelics as being 'brain-addled delusion' if the materialistic supposition is already implanted. Furthermore, such insight is usually overwhelming with assimilation into baseline consciousness being difficult. However, the same mystical states have been achieved by many without the use of drugs - a gradual onset over a lifetime of discipline.
downvoted for irrational mysticism
if you can show me two things that AREN'T connected, you'll have proven him wrong. but you can't, because you just connected the two things you named by putting them into the same sentence.
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Everything is connected. It is understandable to discard insight on psychedelics as being 'brain-addled delusion' if the materialistic supposition is already implanted. Furthermore, such insight is usually overwhelming with assimilation into baseline consciousness being difficult. However, the same mystical states have been achieved by many without the use of drugs - a gradual onset over a lifetime of discipline.
downvoted for irrational mysticism
And so on.
They sound like stupid questions to dwell on, and they sort of are. They don't have concrete answers, but it's the asking that's important. The drug merely helps a person to honestly take them seriously.
I will never understand how HN manages to be so (maybe relatively) anti-drug, even in a latent fashion on this topic. I do, not, understand this sentiment. For all of the things that HN does not take at face value, there is a blind acceptance of the "drugs are evil" viewpoint espoused (often exclusively in the face of their own studies, dozens of times, over 20 years ) by the United States Government. Downvote within…
They may not be evil, but they aren't particularly good for you either
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Are the downvotes just because the article is (another) hack job fluff article with a tenuous link to Steve Jobs, or because people like HN for tech news and not the same arguments about politics/religion/morality that make Internet forums so homogenous and boring? All the comments here are heavily skewed towards legalization/tolerance of drug use (at worst, outright indifference) so what gives you the impression tha…
I don't know, you're possibly right. I think the influence (or lack there of) of LSD on Steve Jobs as mildly interesting. I think creativity and ingenuity is undervalued in the industry that HN caters to, but I understand the sentiment that this article or even my comment might be off-topic and that's fine. On this post and (more) on other SteveJobs/LSD posts over the last year, I've seen people nearly talk about mar…
Are you denying the negative effects drugs have on many people? Pot may not have many effects on physical health, but it certainly does on mental health.
Many people I know that smoke pot have almost no ambition. Pot becomes almost like a second girlfriend. Everything in life revolves around getting money to smoke more pot. I've seen this happen with way too many people to think that it's a unique case.
But, it actually helps me, because it just means less competition in the workforce.
"yet people are scared and hide in their bunkers because they're never tried, done any research on their own, and just take the "AboveTheInfluence" ads at face value"
How about the people that know how bad it is and just don't agree with the sentiment that it's good for you?