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FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by banannaise »

belter wrote: post #169
simiones wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "find the most amount of criminal activity"? Is this about criminal activity that can be easily found? Is it about criminal activity that happens in the household? Would tax evasion qualify as criminal activity? How about minor building code violations? Labor law violations?

Anything the law considers criminal activity. From stealing a car to setting up a secret Cayman Islands Trust fund to avoid taxes.

"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges."

Using the law as a measure of objectivity is nonsense. The law is in many cases written by rich people for the purpose of policing poor people.

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Post by imgabe »

cheschire wrote: post #172
imgabe wrote: post #3

FYI the neighborhood is Kalorama in DC, where a lot of diplomats and high-level government officials live. Maybe the agents didn't want one of the neighbors to call the director of the FBI to have them chewed out for "making the neighborhood look bad", which is not an impossible thing to happen there considering who the neighbors are. I imagine if you're an FBI field agent, the last thing you want for your career is…

Your knowledge seems to extend beyond the article. Any idea why Kalorama is shaped the way it is? Looking it up on google maps, it looks like two triangles connected by a street, which seems odd for a neighborhood.

Well, I don't have any particular knowledge, other than living in and around DC for a long time.

If you look at the neighborhoods to the west of Kalorama on Google Maps [1], bounded by Rock Creek, they are Kalorama Heights and Kalorama Triangle Historic district, which I think most locals would just consider Kalorama. Although I think a lot of people would consider most of the lower triangle to be part of Dupont Circle rather than Kalorama.

There's also this map [2] which, admittedly, is not trying to be an official map of anything, but it is an artwork featured in one of the DC government buildings. It shows Kalorama more as a single triangle.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/WNii05X [2] https://imgur.com/a/QprVzJm

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Post by dahfizz »

woodruffw wrote: post #188
solarhoma wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The defense brought up one of the rittenhouse attackers was a sex offender to show they are an individual with less than good morals. Someone who would be willing to attack someone with the crowd. So, no, this piece of evidence is not immaterial. Everything in this world is not race based. There are other nuances to the world that the MSM is hiding to push their race based fear mongering.

You’re missing the point. We place people on trial for committing crimes, not for having “less than good morals.” Criminal courts typically exclude references to a victim’s character for precisely this reason: the goal is to determine whether a crime was committed, not whether the jurors would have personally liked the victim.

Character witnesses are extremely common[1].

The issue isn't whether the jury would have liked the victim. The question was "did the victim attack Kyle?". The fact that the victim had a known violent past is very relevant to that question.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/character_witness

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by throwaway040922 »

jmyeet wrote: post #178

Let's compare this experience to that of Amir Locke [1]. To summarize: the Minneapolis PD was executing a no-knock warrant in a homicide investigation. Locke was not the target of the warrant but was sleeping on the couch. He was licensed for the firearm and it was completely legal. When startled awake, he reached for his gun (natural reaction) and the police shot and killed him. You'd think the NRA would be all over…

Duncan Lemp was white, and was similarly awoken in the middle of the night by police, reached for a gun, and was shot dead (unlike Locke, I don't think he even pointed the gun at them). It actually happened the day before the Breonna Taylor shooting (another similar situation), but received almost no media attention. Even around the area where Duncan Lemp was killed, you will find a lot of posters for Breonna Taylor, none for Duncan Lemp.

This kind of violence affects everyone. Some people, particularly those in the media, have worked hard to elevate certain shootings while almost completely ignoring others in order to push a specific racial narrative.

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Post by ss108 »

aliswe wrote: post #163
zarzavat wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Abu X is a kunya[0]. It could mean that your child’s name is X, or X could be something more abstract and figurative like a nickname. The “ou” spelling of و is French style and would usually indicate a French speaking country or an former French colony. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunya_(Arabic)

Tarek Abou-Khatwa, my guess on that name (i didnt even read the article, lol) is Morocco? wdyt?

Could be anywhere from North Africa.

The possibility that the person is from the Levant from among a family who decided to spell their name in a Francophone way cannot be eliminated.

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Post by h2odragon »

belter wrote: post #139

Fought Experiment: Lets say law enforcement was given the task to examine the affairs of 100, randomly selected, poor/medium income households and 100, randomly selected, very wealthy households. Statistically, where would they find the most amount of criminal activity? Has any similar research been done, and would you care to share the data?

How do you count "criminal activity"? Shoplifiting isn't as big a score as kidnapping and eating a neighbor. How long must someone be a habitual shoplifter to bring their score up to the level of someone cannibalized one person?

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Post by MisterTea »

cheschire wrote: post #172
imgabe wrote: post #3

FYI the neighborhood is Kalorama in DC, where a lot of diplomats and high-level government officials live. Maybe the agents didn't want one of the neighbors to call the director of the FBI to have them chewed out for "making the neighborhood look bad", which is not an impossible thing to happen there considering who the neighbors are. I imagine if you're an FBI field agent, the last thing you want for your career is…

Your knowledge seems to extend beyond the article. Any idea why Kalorama is shaped the way it is? Looking it up on google maps, it looks like two triangles connected by a street, which seems odd for a neighborhood.

> Any idea why Kalorama is shaped the way it is? Looking it up on google maps, it looks like two triangles connected by a street, which seems odd for a neighborhood.

I can point out dozens of such intersections in my NYC neighborhood where streets cross at angles not 90 degrees.

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Post by pooper »

withinboredom wrote: post #142
pooper wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No knock should be reserved for extreme situations, not the norm. At this point, I'd say no knock should be unlawful.

Not knocking implies that you live there and have a right to utilize the residence which flies in the face of Amendment #3. The fact that they’re geared like the military, etc just makes this even more obvious to me. Add to the fact that police will be stationed there over multiple days to investigate the domicile… sounds like quartering to me.

It sounds to me that the US Congress is the only body that can ban these atrocities nationwide. Is this true?

> Use of no-knock warrants has increased substantially over time. By one estimate, there were 1,500 annually in the early 1980s whereas by 2010 there were 60,000–70,000 no-knock or quick-knock raids conducted by local police annually, the majority of which were looking for marijuana.

> Currently, Florida, Oregon, Tennessee, and Virginia ban no-knock warrants; however, state-level bans do not affect federal law enforcement. Thirteen states have laws explicitly permitting no-knock warrants, and the remaining states issue them based on a judge's discretion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-knock_warrant

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Post by ss108 »

88840-8855 wrote: post #10

People with money and power have it better. Yes, clear, thanks for yet another confirmation. This is why I could never enjoy NYC. As a normal middle class dude you always feel everywhere that you are a nothing: no fame/no power/no money = people are rude, aggressive, hostile to you. I never felt that in London, which is a quite comparable city to NYC. I felt welcome in most places despite not being rich or famous.

I've lived in NYC for some years, I don't think people are as rude or aggressive as the stereotype goes. If anything, it's "friendlier" in the sense of it being easier/more normal to just talk to random people.

It is expensive AF though, so yeah, depending on how one defines "middle class", living here could be really suboptimal.

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