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A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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Most works of fiction is labeled as such. I don't see anything against them in this comment.

Can't wait for the return of Tipper Gore and labelling anything that offends. /s

I kinda love how that effort backfired, and the "Parental Advisory: Explicit Content" became a fairly cool symbol

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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What lesson is the author supposed to learn here? Don't post jokes on a joke subreddit?

Jokes on the internet are great when people are in on them. Positioning yourself as someone that has inside information when it's false falls closer to "it was just a prank bro". The author should be able to say whatever they want, though the ability doesn't make the action not shitty.

"Everything on the internet is false, unless proven otherwise" - Abraham Lincoln.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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A similar thing that's been bothering me is the meme about "The difference between poisonous and venomous is if you eat it and you die, it's poisonous, if it bites you and you die, it's venomous", with endless discussions about how it's wrong to call snakes poisonous. In reality, if you check the dictionary, poison is "any harmful substance", while venom is "a poison synthesized by an animal, usually for hunting or self-defence".

The etymology of the words kind of sort of supports the meme, but I never managed to find historical evidence of the difference in meaning being as outlined. Both come from Latin, so it's not the case like cow vs beef where the Germanic word gets a new meaning because the language adopts a French word alongside it. Additionally no other European language makes that distinction and it's extremely rare for a concept to exist only in English.

I've tried to hunt down where this confusion started and it seems to be some meme English teachers repeat, like "i before e except after c". Australians in particular are very invested in it.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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Absolutely not. Should The Onion be considered fake news? It was a parody account, which was labeled as such. Journalists who can't even be bothered to tap through to the profile don't get my sympathy.

I kind of think that in the mess we’re in ‘it was just a prank bro’ doesn’t cut it any more as an excuse for something that causes harm. But maybe that’s extremist of me.

"It's just a prank bro" would be inexcusable for someone mocking up a screenshot to make it look like someone was sending racist DMs to get them fired, or something on that level. But this is not anything like that, it was a funny comment in a forum where funny comments are made that was taken at face value by a credulous reporter who should've done their job better. It wasn't hateful, offensive or dangerous.

In addition, you've completely altered what the author of the blog post was saying. They're not using the dismissive "It's just a prank bro", they've actually written quite a thoughtful post explaining the context behind the incident. They didn't apologise but they didn't need to.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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I just took a very quick look at the subreddit (absolutely awful stuff BTW, who finds this crap funny?) and already found 2 instances of people sharing "real" stories in the comments to joke posts. Should both of these be taken as jokes? They are not presented as such. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/u0elnq/com... > I completely forget the example problem we were doing, but back when I was learning…

> who finds this crap funny? Apparently 1.9 million people (the number of subscribers).

The quality went way down after most of them joined.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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A similar thing that's been bothering me is the meme about "The difference between poisonous and venomous is if you eat it and you die, it's poisonous, if it bites you and you die, it's venomous", with endless discussions about how it's wrong to call snakes poisonous. In reality, if you check the dictionary, poison is "any harmful substance", while venom is "a poison synthesized by an animal, usually for hunting or s…

Blindly repeating the misinformed comment "it's not assault, it's battery" is virtually guaranteed to garner dozens of upvotes from the types of people who live for that kind of pedantry (which is, on Reddit, a lot).

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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Same. I didn't see a joke. Were Roku devices rebooting? Was it being caused by a Pokemon game? No idea what is going on here.

The part in "the joke" contains the joke, all of the other sections are not. Pokemon Sword/Shield was really causing Roku devices to boot until Roku issued a patch as the "background" section details. The joke was this involved a collision with some signed Roku command and that's the fluke our universe gets over a planet of Justin Timberlake clones. It's not a "2 guys and a priest walk into the bar" type joke, it was…

So the media circus was about a real bug? Sounds like a legitimate media story.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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There were lessons to learn here for all the parties involved. The author seems to have chosen to ignore theirs while wanting to pat themselves on the back for fooling news sites. The news sites learned nothing, they got what they wanted out of the deal. Reddit.. Reddit cannot learn, too many people involved.

Incorrect. It's the journalists' job to verify.

They still should cite their sources because they are human and fallible.

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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Don't joke too hard on the internet. 4chan once decided to promote the idea that the "a-ok sign" (making a circle with your thumb and finger) is a white supremacist coded symbol, basically as a test of how easily gulled the press is about such issues. Well, the press got gulled, and today displaying the symbol can get you fired, or banned from certain locations. The ADL considers it a hate symbol.

Show a poll that people don't associate it like how it's always been

Re: A stupid joke resulting in a silly news cycle

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The crucial detail that is a little buried in the piece is that the original 'explanation' was posted in /r/ProgrammerHumor so it said right on the tin it was a joke. But the (seemingly clearly intended as a joke) details temporarily nerd-sniped a lot of people's senses of humor right out of their brains. The HN discussion discussion from back then is still fun reading with a number of commenters very invested in the…

The subreddit has 'Humor' in the name, not 'Joke'. So to me it is not obvious it is a joke because programmers can also laugh at very silly real world bugs. But the main story here is that news outlets don't bother to fact check. And that's another reason you should avoid news.

The subreddit has 'Humor' in the name, not 'Joke'.

At that point it's probably best to avoid human language altogether

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