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San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by makeitdouble »

bmitc wrote: post #2

I remain confused on how these cars are allowed on the road. Did they pass a driver's license check? Who's responsible? Who gets the ticket? In this instance, you can see that the car performed a dangerous maneuver by running from the cops, with its lights still off, and crossing an intersection, which is then spun by the company as finding a "safer" spot to pull over at. Even though, it found a spot essentially iden…

In case no one is specifically identified for the infraction, doesn't it come back to the car owner ?

Not in the US, but that's how it would work here for illegal parking or if the driver fled from the cops and the car is never found for instance. Even if the owner doesn't own a driving license, that's just where the buck stops. The owner if of course free to try to shove it somewhere else, but that's on them to make it work.

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by soco »

hericium wrote: post #10
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case then it's pretty impractical and double standard vs a human driver who needs to pull over immediately when instructed by the police or face potentially grave consequences if he doesn't immediately comply. When I'm at the wheel, I can't just tell the cop tailing me "yeah officer, I didn't pull over when you told me to behause you should have called me on my cell to tell me that" lol.

> double standard vs a human driver who needs to pull over immediately when instructed by the police or face potentially grave consequences Especially where Police is so hasty to use their cruisers as weapons[1] [1] https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/10/arkansa...

On an unrelated note: why are the US police cars called "cruisers"? Are they a different category so to say?

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by thematrixturtle »

bschne wrote: post #9
thematrixturtle wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We work closely with the SFPD on how to interact with our vehicles and have a dedicated phone number for them to call in situations like this.” And yes, that seems thoroughly impractical at scale.

I'm guessing the plan is that once you reach that scale there will be people in the cars?

How can a passenger force a fully autonomous taxi to pull over? And what happens when the passenger is in the driver's seat and the police think they are resisting orders?

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by surgi »

I find the explanation offered by Cruise amusing: the car supposedly "figured out" that it is in a dangerous spot to be pulled over and "tried to move to a better one" (extremely complex behavior), while the actual reason for the car being pulled over was not having its headlights on (seemingly a relatively simple bug).

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by ulimn »

thematrixturtle wrote: post #13
bschne wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing the plan is that once you reach that scale there will be people in the cars?

How can a passenger force a fully autonomous taxi to pull over? And what happens when the passenger is in the driver's seat and the police think they are resisting orders?

I would be certainly terrified if the car didn't pull over and I would see cops chasing me. And all I could do was watch.

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by dojitza1 »

shafyy wrote: post #3

How do you pull over an autonomous car? Like, how does it know that it needs to pull over?

Remote override for authorities to stop the car, instruct it to pull over etc. Alternatively, passengers always having access to a pull over when safe button.

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by brigade »

shafyy wrote: post #3

How do you pull over an autonomous car? Like, how does it know that it needs to pull over?

Same way humans do? It needs to recognize flashing lights and emergency vehicles to obey the law to get out of their way, and from there add code to fully pull over and remain stopped as long as there’s a cop car with flashing lights staying behind you.

Re: San Francisco cops pull over a Cruise driverless car for no lights on

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Post by mobilio »

cdot2 wrote: post #17

"Cruise vehicles are only authorized to drive from 10PM to 6AM, which obviously makes headlights pretty important." So why rely on the automatic headlights at all? Why not just set the headlights on manually?

In EU there is a law that you should drive with headlight all time.

Old cars drive with low beam, new cars comes with daytime running lights (DRLs).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_running_lamp#European_...

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