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Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by 454544545 »

axg11 wrote: post #9

A very odd set of events and no explanation regarding Elon's change of mind. A pessimist would think that Elon has decided to go for a "hostile" takeover since he is no longer bound by the percentage holding cap. An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has poste…

> with little benefit.

I would say one of the first changes would be to re-instate Trump, which would bring back a huge amount of free marketing.

Here is a single account that by far generated the most brand awareness of Twitter than anything else. "Twitter" was mentioned in every news outlet every single day. And it drove engagement from both sides.

I think a lot of people can see the liberal bias hurting the company and were waiting for something like this. Just look at how many people are coming out from the wood work talking about free speech.

The funny thing is that here is a platform where you can choose who you listen to and who you don't by following and blocking, contrasted to all other news outlets who give you no filtering options, and force you to literally switch off the service if you don't want to hear from someone.

It makes no sense for Twitter to need to ban people.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by root_axis »

onion2k wrote: post #358
smt88 wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One of the hard things about changing the course of a company is that you actually need people to do the things you want them to do. Dorsey chose not to ban Trump, and then he did. That was a huge change for Twitter, and it didn't seem to rock the boat at the company at all. Twitter also didn't ban politicians at all for a long time. That was another major policy change that Musk could simply revert back.

Dorsey chose not to ban Trump, and then he did. That was a huge change for Twitter, and it didn't seem to rock the boat at the company at all. This is (probably) a good example of why it's hard. Dorsey understood that banning Trump would have been problematic, so he didn't. He, and probably others, worked to change the company internally to be somewhere where they could do that. Rather than do it and then deal with t…

The company didn't really change at all, it's simply that Jan 6th made it easy to justify the ban.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by 454544545 »

smt88 wrote: post #54
axg11 wrote: post #9

A very odd set of events and no explanation regarding Elon's change of mind. A pessimist would think that Elon has decided to go for a "hostile" takeover since he is no longer bound by the percentage holding cap. An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has poste…

> An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. Assuming Musk did take over Twitter, he wouldn't need to be much of a distraction. He could dictate a few rules (don't moderate Twitter, don't ban anyone, etc.) and then leave the company to function as it did before. I think what he doesn't realize is that reducing moderation…

I don't think people are outraged about "bots" being moderated. It's more about huge accounts with non-liberal views like Trump.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by KptMarchewa »

hajhatten wrote: post #374
KptMarchewa wrote: post #357

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Or just make edit button append text at below tweet, immediately visible in contrast to next tweet in chain.

Why not both? If you want to edit posts after the initial deadline, that could be the next step.

Yeah, normal editing for X minutes, then append only seems to be good solution.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by incrudible »

ckastner wrote: post #359
axg11 wrote: post #9

A very odd set of events and no explanation regarding Elon's change of mind. A pessimist would think that Elon has decided to go for a "hostile" takeover since he is no longer bound by the percentage holding cap. An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has poste…

> It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has posted an image of text (from the iOS Notes app?) to get around the Twitter character limit. I also find quite amusing the fact that Twitter's original 140 character limitation stemmed from compatibility with SMS gateways. That part of Twitter is now all but obsolete, I assume. But we're left in a regressed state where people still communicate long-form t…

These constraints are good. Brevity is the soul of wit. Nobody wants to read your essay. If you want to tweet longer, you should pay for it, one way or another.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by 454544545 »

ehnto wrote: post #293
smt88 wrote: post #201

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How can anyone tell the difference between a fascist disinformation network and a sincere idiot?

Well, one has a social security number. Just look at all the information Facebook takes from people, requiring a government issued credential to verify your account isn't even farfetched anymore. Many governments have been rolling out SSO for their suite of digital service applications, I can totally imagine an "internet passport" type situation in the future, where a government issued SSO authorization can be used b…

France does this with age-verification for porn sites. Visit pornhub via French vpn to see.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by rsynnott »

throwaway4good wrote: post #389
paxys wrote: post #155

Reading between the lines and the PR speak a little bit: 1. Parag is covering his own ass and making clear that the initial announcement was always contingent on a few things and not a done deal. 2. He is heavily implying that being a fiduciary of the company and having to act in its best interests (including, I imagine, not randomly criticizing it in public or promising non-existent features) was the deal breaker fo…

Sounds like Elon didn't accept Twitter's conditions for joining the board. For Twitter this is serious; Elon could destroy Twitter. Sell it again, and create (or buy) an alternative. Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network, and unlike Trump (it seems) he could probably build it.

> Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network

That appears to be an embarrassing failure, tho. And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump's.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by raspberry1337 »

rsynnott wrote: post #397
throwaway4good wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like Elon didn't accept Twitter's conditions for joining the board. For Twitter this is serious; Elon could destroy Twitter. Sell it again, and create (or buy) an alternative. Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network, and unlike Trump (it seems) he could probably build it.

> Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network That appears to be an embarrassing failure, tho. And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump's.

>And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump'

The world is larger than just the USA. Elon has an international following that probably outsizes what's left of Trumps crazy republicans.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by smilespray »

ponco wrote: post #316
smilespray wrote: post #240

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True for every language

I think their point is that less is more.

It was meant as a supporting statement rather than a correction. I write copy in several languages, and trimming fat is key.

Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by throwaway4good »

rsynnott wrote: post #397
throwaway4good wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like Elon didn't accept Twitter's conditions for joining the board. For Twitter this is serious; Elon could destroy Twitter. Sell it again, and create (or buy) an alternative. Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network, and unlike Trump (it seems) he could probably build it.

> Just like Trump he has a personal brand big enough to jumpstart a social network That appears to be an embarrassing failure, tho. And Musk's personal brand is much smaller than Trump's.

The Trump stuff is hard to understand; seems like he had such a massive oppurtunity.
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