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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Then just don’t use those apps? I don’t, and nobody above 30 in my circle does. No need stay in caves, just adapt some culture.

I don't do, but can't stop my spouse sitting beside me from doing that ... Hence the problem .. :-)

I hear you! Literally.

And its the first 4 or 8 bars of a song (usually a modern cover or remix of older song) on a loop.

It is waterboarding for the ears.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Makes me wonder what kind of society would grow in a designated low-noise city. Electric cars only, no dogs, no lawnmowers, no amplified music after 9pm... no kids? Probably a society rife with purity spirals.

Think about the one in the movie Equilibrium. You need to suppress somehow the the need to be an asshole with lawnmower or untrained dog. Or with a masculine motorcycle with super loud exhaust. Or listen too loud to some tasteless music.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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It does sound ridiculous but I’ve lived in DC, London, and SF now and all were quieter than the suburbs I’ve lived in. Mostly because of lawn stuff and garbage pickup. Also probably a factor that I’ve been in new city buildings with good insulation and not on the ground floor.

If the insulation isn’t the same, you can’t really compare the 2. I could take a nap in an active construction site with good enough earplugs. Garbage pickup is once a week, and the truck is close enough for me to hear it for maybe 15 minutes. Double that for recycling pickup. I live a few miles from the city center, in just about the densest area where people still have lawns. There are maybe 5 houses close enough t…

> Garbage pickup is once a week, and the truck is close enough for me to hear it for maybe 15 minutes. Double that for recycling pickup.

Around me, there are three different recycling pickups (one for the each kind of recyclable). Combined with regular trash pickup, it means that the garbage truck is here on most work days.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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They may be louder but do you have a dump truck waking you up at 4am several times a week? I really don’t know what to do anymore. Obviously they need to pick up trash that early to beat the traffic and save a few bucks /s. But the city doesn’t care and I’m constantly told that condos/apartments are a more sustainable way of living. Thats great but I’m about done with this nonsense and about to move out to the burbs…

"Normal" suggestions: earmuffs or earplugs; soundproof your bedroom (IIUC certain types of window roller shutters can mitigate noise); move :/ Insane suggestion: record the dump trucks every night (using good microphones - maybe even hire some), build up a compendium of recordings, get a really good speaker and amp setup (absolutely no buzzing/hissing/hum etc), then play the recordings in a loop progressively increas…

> earmuffs or earplugs

Spending too much time in hardcore noise insulation can induce tinnitus, which is then pretty likely to stay around forever.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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On small roads between the blocks ("strefa zamieszkania") it's 20 km/h. Also pedestrians have right of way over cars on these roads everywhere, no matter the crossings. Usually these roads are made of bricks and have these "bumps" so you won't go much faster even if you wanted to. That's the closest road to me (like 50 meters from my flat). On regular roads it's 50 km/h. There's one like 300 meters from my flat. On a…

It's worth adding that 90%+ of Polish drivers ignore speed limits...There's hardly any police or speeding cameras (apart from a few selected areas which everyone knows about, and does not speed there), so the speed limits really work on sort of "opt-in" basis.

Eh, sure, but on the local "strefa zamieszkania" nobody goes over 30 km/h. You hardly can go faster there.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

Some people are more noise intolerant than others so normal people may not be as bothered by noise. I have a genetic mutation, a form of hEDS, which has a high degree of noise intolerance.

It’s unfortunate for me that housing bubble has made it so expensive to buy and soundproof a place. I keep waiting for the market to deflate and it keeps not happening.

Dogs are the worst for me. I don’t know how other people can sleep through that. Drives me nuts.

I have thought seriously about moving to Switzerland.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Yep, I joined the tinnitus bandwagon in the beginning of the pandemic. I was locked up at home and neighbouring dogs wouldn't shut up all day, so I resorted to earplugs and here I am now. Surprisingly I met at least 5 other people with the same problem recently, and they were all told by doctors that it was due to stress and not earplugs/headphones. I call it BS.

Earplugs gave you tinnitus? Do you mean earbuds? Earplugs are typically hearing PPE.

Anecdata, but another case here. I wear them approx. 6 months per year because of knocking heating sounds. Anyway, doctor recommended to do ear cleansing once a year and it helped, maybe 80% of the ringing sound is gone. Earplugs caused all the grease to end up compressed and deep in the ear canal. After a while it blocked signal transmission through the auditory nerve enough so that my brain thinks there's no audio input and it starts compensating with these imaginary ringing sounds.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

Germany too. You can find noise maps[1] with measurements for all kinds of noise, including car noise, aircraft noise, industrial noise, etc. This allows you to make a more informed decision when renting or buying a new home. In the area around Frankfurt airport (FRA) there is ongoing noise monitoring[2] to make sure that the noise doesn't constantly exceed the agreed limits. The aircraft can only fly between 6am-11p…

Central Europe rocks. They are the best places for quality housing with tons of insulation and people are generally pretty respectful of each other.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Anyone who has ever lived next to someone with a barking dog knows how the spikes of adrenaline at random times of the day and night can raise stress levels significantly.

I simply don't understand why we have to put up with this kinda shit. Dogs barking I mean. The one thing i noticed when visited Dubai, there were no random dogs barking even in dense condos.

Because people are incredibly irresponsible when it comes to pets and most countries don't want to invest time into he-said/she-said issues.

For dogs in particular, the issue is almost always a lack of attention, a lack of discipline and/or a lack of awareness. People picking up needy family dogs then leaving them alone for 12 hours, anxiety, boredom, letting dogs decide when they are allowed to bark.

Worst, dogs are quickly taught that barking works as long as it is loud enough. So eventually these dogs start having a competition to bark loud enough it penetrates your walls. And those with separation anxiety will do it while the owners aren't home, leaving them out of the mess.

I really like dogs but the far majority of people just can't handle an easy-going breed, let alone something far needier in any sense.

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