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Re: Elon has decided not to join our board

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Post by otterley »

coolso wrote: post #308
otterley wrote: post #300

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Character matters a lot. Our leaders should be moral as well as financial leaders. As for the president, you give that position way too much credit (or, inversely, blame). They have no authority or control over gas prices, supply chain issues, or autocrats invading other countries. They’re not God; they’re just doing a job described in Article II of the Constitution. Republican or Democrat; it doesn’t matter.

> They have no authority or control over gas prices, supply chain issues, or autocrats invading other countries. They may not have direct control... but nobody is arguing the President literally said "supply chain issues, start existing!" or failed to say "gas prices, you better not rise!" while waiving his finger. Presidents absolutely have indirect control over all of those things though, and more.

Suppose you were President. How would you control those things, and with what authority? And how would you prevent unintended consequences that are worse than the problems you set out to solve?

You don’t have to answer this question, but it’s a really useful thought exercise. Leadership is much harder than people often realize.

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Post by ComradePhil »

mlindner wrote: post #261
daguava wrote: post #142

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No matter how many times people say "Elon is a narcissist", saying it doesn't make it true. Is he socially oblivious to others, yes certainly, it comes with being on the spectrum, is he a narcissist, absolutely not. > Edit: He'd show up in hacker news chat to call me a pedophile if it made his techy fans scream beligerantly. This isn't appropriate to say on Hacker News.

I have never heard Elon talk about himself, unless he is explicitly asked... and even then, he's not comfortable. He's like the opposite of a narcissist, whatever that is... And it's often the self-important nobodies who are obssed with their own identities, pronouns, appearance and what not who call him that, which I find very amusing.

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Post by ben_w »

mlindner wrote: post #264
bradlys wrote: post #181

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Ooooh, he remembers a lot of people. He'll quote people from years ago that he blocked on Twitter. He definitely remembers people who he feels slighted by.

> He'll quote people from years ago that he blocked on Twitter. [Citation needed] This is one of the silliest things I've heard people make up about Musk.

I’m not sure why that would be silly; I can remember things said by people I blocked years ago on the internet, generally the thing that made me block them.

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Post by DoctorOW »

mlindner wrote: post #302
DoctorOW wrote: post #286

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6246561/ > Here we analyze 14 million messages spreading 400 thousand articles on Twitter during ten months in 2016 and 2017. We find evidence that social bots played a disproportionate role in spreading articles from low-credibility sources. Bots amplify such content in the early spreading moments, before an article goes viral. I would also be interested in finding more s…

Different cases. Those things are funded by politicians and foreign governments to influence the general populace. The scale is completely different.

What does that even mean? The study refers to the type of bots I was talking about, the same as I suspect that comment's GP is talking about. If there's an extra special variety of astroturfing bots that don't exist, that's great. It seems obvious to me that this discussion was about bots that do exist.

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Post by throwaway4good »

perihelions wrote: post #27
axg11 wrote: post #9

A very odd set of events and no explanation regarding Elon's change of mind. A pessimist would think that Elon has decided to go for a "hostile" takeover since he is no longer bound by the percentage holding cap. An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has poste…

- "CEO of Twitter has posted an image of text (from the iOS Notes app?)" At least he made the effort to include accessible alt-text. (Interestingly, the accessible text differs *slightly* from the picture-of-text version -- different draft revisions? Even social media CEO's don't seem comfortable with this workflow). edit: here's a diff with highlighting: https://i.imgur.com/R9wf2H5.png I'm relying on Verge's transcr…

It is all very odd: Why mention fiduciary responsibilities, background check, formal approval, we are in control unless all these things were in question?

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Post by pas »

paxys wrote: post #207
axg11 wrote: post #9

A very odd set of events and no explanation regarding Elon's change of mind. A pessimist would think that Elon has decided to go for a "hostile" takeover since he is no longer bound by the percentage holding cap. An optimistic would think that Elon had enough self-awareness to realize it would be an overall distraction for Twitter with little benefit. It amuses me more than it should that the CEO of Twitter has poste…

The explanation is as clear as you'll get. They wanted Elon to act like a board member – be a fiduciary of the company, be trusted with confidential data, consult leadership before making announcements, don't disparage it in public. Elon decided that being able to Tweet about the company on a whim was more important to him.

does the SEC care whether you are on the board or not if you have a very sizable stake anyway?

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Post by throwaway4good »

tallytarik wrote: post #310
nickysielicki wrote: post #245

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These are widely different tones and messages, if you have the other for context. Especially the bit about how “we’re still in control”. Seems obvious that a takeover is imminent.

Where's the "we're still in control" bit?

The final version's "the decisions we make and how we execute is in our hands, no-one else's".

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Post by nebula8804 »

PixyMisa wrote: post #274
onion2k wrote: post #200

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Assuming Musk did take over Twitter, he wouldn't need to be much of a distraction. He could dictate a few rules (don't moderate Twitter, don't ban anyone, etc.) and then leave the company to function as it did before. Not really. One of the hard things about changing the course of a company is that you actually need people to do the things you want them to do. That means actually being hands on and checking things ar…

Small loss.

Bigger than you think. Every right wing "free speech" platform has collapsed in flames partially because it seems like the majority of their people do not have the experience to build and run such a platform. I am reminded of the elementary mistakes made in the design of Parler.
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