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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by triggercut »

triggercut wrote: post #117

I did some research on this as part of my undergrad in the early 00's I skimmed the article but it seems to align with the literature back then. The thinking was during our evolution that high volume low frequency sounds would represent a precursor to mortal danger (avalanches, earthquakes, stampedes, thunder, wind) so we were attuned to secreting stress hormones in early response. Unfortunately, much of our urban bu…

I got curious and tried to find the original but I think might be:

Haines, M. M., Stansfeld, S. A., Job, R. F. S., Berglund, B., &Head, J. (2001a). Chronic aircraft noise exposure, stress responses, mental health and cognitive performance in school children. Psychological Medicine 31, 265-277.

And features in a brief meta analysis which some may find interesting:

Matheson, M., et al. "The effects of chronic aircraft noise exposure on children's cognition and health : 3 field studies." Noise and Health, vol. 5, no. 19, Apr.-June 2003. Gale OneFile: Health and Medicine, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A164796669/HRCA?u=googlescholar&sid=bookmark-HRCA&xid=afd7e60c. Accessed 11 Apr. 2022. [https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?p=HRCA&u=googlescholar&id=GALE|A...]

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Post by QuikAccount »

carb wrote: post #162
wildrhythms wrote: post #106

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I have yet to find noise cancelling headphones that don't give me 'stuffy ear' feeling.

I'm with you. One option I've seen is to wear gun range noise protection muffs and wear low volume earbud. Avoiding active noise canceling but still giving isolation.

Didn't have gun range muffs but I did something similar for a few years before buying my ANC headphones. I had a broken pair of over-ear headphones and under them I wore a pair of IEMs. Did the job pretty well.

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Post by malthaus »

drdeadringer wrote: post #99
victor9000 wrote: post #65

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Earplugs can help if you want something less bulky when you sleep

On top of that, if anybody knows of similar for folks who sleep on their side I would like suggestions//insight.

i'm a side sleeper who could never use plugs until i found those (not affiliated):

https://www.happyearsearplugs.com

they advertise heavily but for me it's the only ones that dont bother me when im turning at night and they hold forever.

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Post by dan-robertson »

seattle_spring wrote: post #29
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

Conversely, if you turn on your tumble dryer after 11pm in Switzerland and your neighbours hear, expect them to call the police.

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Post by jraph »

seattle_spring wrote: post #29
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

> People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US

What stroke me the most during my trip to the US (Chicago) was:

- the constant police sirens

- the fact that cars come with a feature that allows you to find them with their key by making them honk. Here it is forbidden to honk in cities (though people do it all the time, sigh).

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #164
bogomipz wrote: post #147

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How about the non-stop construction and non-stop road work? How about clubs and bars with outdoor speakers? Helicopters, industrial cooling/HVAC. I could go on. It's far more than just cars. What are these quiet cities that magically have none of these things?

I never noticed, walking around the nicer European cities, that any of those things made nearly the same level of noise as the cars. Seriously, walk through Paris or something and tell me that clubs and bars and helicopters and AC are even nearly as loud as the cars when you walk next to a busy road. I can't think of an exception to this in any city I've been in, honestly. Which cities have lots of clubs and bars wit…

Some of Paris is nice, quiet, leafy arrondissements. Quite a lot is not.

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Post by tpm »

dan-robertson wrote: post #214
seattle_spring wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

Conversely, if you turn on your tumble dryer after 11pm in Switzerland and your neighbours hear, expect them to call the police.

That's the country of my dreams!

Seriously though, people should understand that night is for sleeping and walls do not offer perfect sound insulation. Everything you do can be heard and can disturb someones sleep. I struggle with this all my life.

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

ajuc wrote: post #184
bogomipz wrote: post #169

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Miami, NYC, LA to name a few. And it's far more prevalent now since covid as most places have some outdoor seating now and they've seemingly all installed speakers.

It's banned in all Polish cities I've been to. And for a good reason. Half the problems with America seems to be lack of regulation and the assumption that it can't be changed :)

America fascinates me because half of the time things are functionally unregulated, and the other half of the time there's a law about Kinder Eggs and the exact height your lawn must be.

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Post by dt3ft »

drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

I lived in Switzerland, Zurich for over 6 years and I hardly experienced the peace and quiet in this city. We had people (not a single person but entire packs of skaters) skating down our street at 2 am and that made a ton of noise. Stay away from Rigistrasse :)
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