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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by scruple »

theonething wrote: post #87
gotaquestion wrote: post #33

Anyone who has ever lived next to someone with a barking dog knows how the spikes of adrenaline at random times of the day and night can raise stress levels significantly.

Living in southern California, I don't think I've ever lived anywhere where there wasn't at least one annoying dog. This includes everything from apartments, condos to single family housing. I just hate it. I wish designated dog free neighborhoods was a thing.

My kids preschool is closed next week so we're visiting some friends in NorCal, up from SoCal, for a few days.

Last night, after the kids got to sleep, I saw my friends stack of mail and right on the top was a weekly mailer. The very top advertisement on the flyer was for a weekly dog poop pick up service. They'll come by your place once a week to pick up Scruffy's poop and deodorize the yard.

My point here: There are so many dog owners who should not own dogs.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by ajuc »

sarchertech wrote: post #143
quadrangle wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cities aren't loud, cars (and trucks) are loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 Video discusses this thoroughly. There ARE quiet cities amazingly enough. And suburbs are a HUGE source of the noise IN the cities they surround because it's the car traffic from suburbs into the cities that makes much of the noise. Cities ARE loud, but they don't HAVE to be.

Sure, but neither do suburbs. You could mandate everyone drive electric vehicles with tires optimized for low road noise.

Tesla going 90 km/h is almost as noisy as regular car going 90 km/h. Engine noise only dominates at low speeds.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by halfdan »

seattle_spring wrote: post #29
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

As someone who had to travel to the bay area for years I'll add: Caltrain honking its way through all suburbs, even at night.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by AngryData »

Izkata wrote: post #131
Zircom wrote: post #50

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Not to be rude but you ascribing an equal likelihood of causing tinnitus to one night of using earplugs(which BLOCK sound from your ears) vs presumably regular/sustained use of noise cancelling headphones(which BLAST sound into your ears) borders on ridiculousness and make me think you're just trolling..

Earplugs go into the ear similar to earbuds, but are squishy and meant to be rolled thin so you can get them in a bit further (then they decompress halfway inside your ear and fill in the gaps). If you push them in too far I imagine they can damage the eardrum, which could cause tinnitus. After trying earplugs myself a few months ago, I decided it was too risky to sleep with them due to the pressure I felt in my ear…

You would have to push your ear plugs in so far that you couldn't take them out to get anywhere near the eardrum though.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by InCityDreams »

vegetablepotpie wrote: post #71
throw__away7391 wrote: post #21

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It's because almost all the noise in the modern world is caused by cars and motorcycles, and in the United States are prioritized over all other life forms.

The US preference for cars cuts DEEP, it’s at a cellular level. To share an anecdote, I went to order a sandwich at a fast food restaurant from the counter. After ordering I waited in the restaurant, watching the kitchen staff serve several cars in the drive through. After 10 minutes I just got frustrated, went back to the counter and asked for a refund. I got it and left. Later I talked to friends about the experien…

Burger King Manager confirmed the same to myself.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by scruple »

tayo42 wrote: post #37
everybodyknows wrote: post #31

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A generation or so ago vehicle noise laws actually were enforced in California, and now it seems they effectively are not. No obvious technology change behind it, rather somehow the will to enforce has eroded, and/or the burden of proof has shifted away from the perps.

I think it's attitude. Being loud is rude, but some how also calling others out in their rude behavior is more rude so you can't do it.

I really want to know what this phenomenon is. I have seen and personally experienced it quite a few times. It's pretty insane.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by AngryData »

thisistheend123 wrote: post #161

No one here has mentioned the most horrific noise that has come into existence only a few years ago. I am talking about apps like Facebook, Instagram suddenly playing sound of a video at full blast when it scrolls into view in a feed. God I hate these apps and this thing called smartphone that has taken over our lives. Fuck all this modern shit. We should have never come out of the caves.

Autoplay videos themselves need to stop being a thing.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by InCityDreams »

bogomipz wrote: post #155
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

I feel like the proliferation of cheap and loud bluetooth speakers has contributed to the scourge of noise pollution significantly in the last two years. The parks are filled with them. People also seem to walk and bike around cities confident that everyone around them really wants to hear their music above all else. It's a truly bizarre and recent-ish phenomenon, and it's full-grown adults. I'm guessing the prices m…

Years ago when boom boxes were popular i remember someone saying "It doesn't matter how cool your music is, someone thinks you're a cunt".

So true, still true.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by Tade0 »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #164
bogomipz wrote: post #147

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How about the non-stop construction and non-stop road work? How about clubs and bars with outdoor speakers? Helicopters, industrial cooling/HVAC. I could go on. It's far more than just cars. What are these quiet cities that magically have none of these things?

I never noticed, walking around the nicer European cities, that any of those things made nearly the same level of noise as the cars. Seriously, walk through Paris or something and tell me that clubs and bars and helicopters and AC are even nearly as loud as the cars when you walk next to a busy road. I can't think of an exception to this in any city I've been in, honestly. Which cities have lots of clubs and bars wit…

Try the less nice ones then.

In terms of decibels cars are indeed louder. But not all noise is created equal.

I have noise-cancelling headphones - they do a great job removing white noise(so traffic, among others), but aren't too effective against sounds with a more focused spectrum like people yelling in the middle of the night, bottles being broken or trash being collected in the middle of the night.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by artificial »

tayo42 wrote: post #163
lom wrote: post #44

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I can’t speak about puerto rico, but in another latin american country i’ve spent a lot of time in it’s very common for every small store to have a loudspeaker and blast (imo shitty) music from 10 to 5. That isn’t even bad compared to the many discos right next to each other than play music as loud as possible to not be dwarfed by their neighbor. Whenever I’m in a Western city I’m grateful for how much more quiet it…

Hesitate to say it, but I think a lot of my current noise issues are because I moved into an immigrant Mexican community without realizing it. While I'm posting things that might sound bad, I think I've noticed a correlation with more noise and lower economic class people

How’s the honking? I’ve moved around quite a bit and shared some of your experience from the sound of it.
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