Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021) • Hacker News Board

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by calvinmorrison » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:01 AM UTC

pastaguy1 wrote: post #138

drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

This isn't exactly what you mean, but as someone who also has not a great reaction to that type of thing, i can't believe how accepted it's become to just fire up tiktok _anywhere_. I'm aware the internet and phones made noises before tiktok, but something about this app compels people to forget the sound-vironment is a shared space, it seems.

I see you're not a connoisseur of socially-inept subway phone DJ's

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by axolotlgod » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:01 AM UTC

71a54xd wrote: post #127

This is why I left New York City. For some reason, being inside / covid lockdowns did something to my head and now I'm super sensitive to noise. Prior, I lived in Boston for six years generally in very loud (third to fifth floor) apartments with reasonable amounts of street / city noise. Oddly, for a time it actually calmed my ADHD and distracted me enough that I felt I could focus. Initially I was lucky and had a gr…

Man, I'm right there with you. I'm 26, and feel like none of my friends care about these things. I am quite sensitive when it comes to input like light and sound, and I would love to live in a quieter place than the city I do now. Everyone wants to be around stimulation and novelty when they are young, and I used to understand, the pandemic has sort of shifted my priorities I feel. Part of getting older, I guess.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by sarchertech » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:02 AM UTC

quadrangle wrote: post #136

sarchertech wrote: post #67

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>Suburbs are louder than cities imo because there is always a leaf blower, lawn mower, and weedwacker going at all times during the day within 100 yards of you. That's hugely hyperbolic. But in the city there really are constant sirens, car horns, diesel trucks, construction noises, roadway noise etc... The most comprehensive study done on this (admittedly a long time ago in 1970) shows a clear correlation between po…

Cities aren't loud, cars (and trucks) are loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 Video discusses this thoroughly. There ARE quiet cities amazingly enough. And suburbs are a HUGE source of the noise IN the cities they surround because it's the car traffic from suburbs into the cities that makes much of the noise. Cities ARE loud, but they don't HAVE to be.

Sure, but neither do suburbs. You could mandate everyone drive electric vehicles with tires optimized for low road noise.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by calvinmorrison » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:03 AM UTC

gonehome wrote: post #56

seattle_spring wrote: post #29

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People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

I find by far the biggest disruption in US suburbs is lawn equipment. Suburbs are louder than cities imo because there is always a leaf blower, lawn mower, and weedwacker going at all times during the day within 100 yards of you. Often for hours. Moving from Palo Alto to SF things got way quieter.

This is a joke right? I should keep a diary. Someone did a study and apparently the 'city that never sleeps' (NYC) has better sound quality than my city (PHL). Between inept and behind by 115 years and counting on gas line repairs and ATV squads... not to mention the broken exhaust fan of the corner pizza joint, one cannot exist in Philadelphia and expect a modicum of peaceful bliss.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by gonehome » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:07 AM UTC

sarchertech wrote: post #137

arrosenberg wrote: post #118

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IMO it's more that the city sounds all blend together into one harmonious cacophony, whereas in the suburbs, it's mostly quite except for that one incredibly loud, obnoxious sound. Always Sunny has a great episode about this.

I don’t doubt that people are more likely to notice sounds in the suburbs because they aren’t habituated to them. But saying the suburbs are louder is like saying it’s actually quieter to live next to a gun range than it is to live next to the woods, because when the occasional hunter fires his gun you are more likely to notice it.

There’s really not that much road noise in a lot of cities unless you live near a couple of particularly busy streets.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by dinkleberg » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:09 AM UTC

drdeadringer wrote: post #99

victor9000 wrote: post #65

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Earplugs can help if you want something less bulky when you sleep

On top of that, if anybody knows of similar for folks who sleep on their side I would like suggestions//insight.

I’m a side sleeper and have slept with ear plugs in for nearly the past decade (hard for me to sleep without them now).

I currently use Mack’s ear plugs, but I imagine they are pretty much all the same. Just look for some foam ones. The first couple of times it feels strange, but you get used to it quickly.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by bogomipz » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:10 AM UTC

quadrangle wrote: post #136

sarchertech wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Suburbs are louder than cities imo because there is always a leaf blower, lawn mower, and weedwacker going at all times during the day within 100 yards of you. That's hugely hyperbolic. But in the city there really are constant sirens, car horns, diesel trucks, construction noises, roadway noise etc... The most comprehensive study done on this (admittedly a long time ago in 1970) shows a clear correlation between po…

Cities aren't loud, cars (and trucks) are loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 Video discusses this thoroughly. There ARE quiet cities amazingly enough. And suburbs are a HUGE source of the noise IN the cities they surround because it's the car traffic from suburbs into the cities that makes much of the noise. Cities ARE loud, but they don't HAVE to be.

How about the non-stop construction and non-stop road work? How about clubs and bars with outdoor speakers? Helicopters, industrial cooling/HVAC. I could go on. It's far more than just cars. What are these quiet cities that magically have none of these things?

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by todotask » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:10 AM UTC

At some point for a few weeks and months, there is a strong vibration in my whole block and my entire floor for 24 hours, it's a terrible nights that I couldn't sleep.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by chaps » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:12 AM UTC

zabzonk wrote: post #112

mechanical_bear wrote: post #108

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A little home for your dog within your home. It helps them feel secure and that they have a space that is their own.

So, a kennel? Forgive me, I am not a dog person, though I quite like my cleaning ladys little doggie.

Some dogs love them for their feeling of security, some dogs hate them because they feel confined.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by zeta0134 » Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

QuikAccount wrote: post #26

Anecdata but I recently got headphones with noise cancelling and my quality of life shot through the roof. According to my smartwatch, my heart rate is lower and stress levels are down. Unfortunately, I have to take my headphones off to go to sleep and I'm immediately reminded of the shoddy fridge in my apartment, vent noises, and my neighbor who doesn't realize it's 11:30 PM.

To finally solve for this, I installed a set of 2.1 computer speakers under my bed, and I have my phone run a 10 hour recording I found of an air conditioner. The noise this generates sounds just like the real thing, and I keep it juuuust loud enough to drown out the road noise and upstairs neighbor's heavy footsteps. A click or two louder if their dog starts going nuts at 3am. I'd prefer actual quiet, but a low steady rumble is second best. Recommended highly.