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Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by everybodyknows »

paisawalla wrote: post #14

If we in CA could achieve compliance with the already standing laws against loud exhaust to anywhere near the levels we have with, say, plastic straw riddance, the resulting benefit to society would be drastically superior. I can't think of anything with a lower cost/benefit ratio than just the wholesale confiscation and ban of Harleys.

A generation or so ago vehicle noise laws actually were enforced in California, and now it seems they effectively are not. No obvious technology change behind it, rather somehow the will to enforce has eroded, and/or the burden of proof has shifted away from the perps.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by Gigachad »

cameronh90 wrote: post #19

I haven't read the underlying studies but I wonder if this applies to consistent noise or just intermittent sounds, like the airplanes and railway line examples they focus on. Personally I can't sleep in a quiet room, so I put on white noise generator plus usually music or podcasts. I find that subjectively I sleep better with some relaxing sounds. However, it could be possible that my brain isn't properly turning of…

I don’t find that I am bothered by constant noises. I have an air purifier in my room and find the constant fan noise to be not disruptive at all. It probably even drowns out the outside noises a little.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by Gigachad »

mguerville wrote: post #22
paisawalla wrote: post #14

If we in CA could achieve compliance with the already standing laws against loud exhaust to anywhere near the levels we have with, say, plastic straw riddance, the resulting benefit to society would be drastically superior. I can't think of anything with a lower cost/benefit ratio than just the wholesale confiscation and ban of Harleys.

Agreed, i can’t believe you can get ticketed for a broken taillight but someone can ride a Harley and disrupt hundreds of people anyone, basically anyone within a 50 meter radius, in total impunity.

Honestly it could almost be considered assault. I’d rather be slapped in the face walking down the street than being woken up by a Harley owner at 02:00.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by nicolas_t »

drstewart wrote: post #9
nicolas_t wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've learned the hard way to be very careful about noise when visiting apartments, so I'll try to ask other residents of the building I'm interested in and will do multiple visits at different time of the day to better understand how the noise situation is. Especially important now that I live in Hong Kong where a lot of apartments don't even use double pane windows.

That'd be ideal, but in some markets that's not possible. One of the apartments in question was in SF and I literally had to put my application in <10 minutes into the showing to get the place, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it. There's no way to do any kind of actual inspection of a unit in those circumstances.

It's a bit similar in HK, what we do though is research the different buildings a few months before our lease is over. That allows us to visit units in those buildings without being pressured to make an offer and once we're seriously looking we have a much better idea of the market.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by gotaquestion »

seattle_spring wrote: post #29
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

People are so unbelievably disrespectful with noise in the US. Peaceful hike? Here's Katy Perry crackling out of my iPhone at full blast! Luxury apartment at $4k a month? No insulation between units, and the guy above you comes home at 2am and never takes his shoes off. Small country street? Here comes Chad with his straight-piped civic with the muffler removed!

Want to go to the beach? Well here's Toby Keith on your left, Christian Radio on your right, Mariachi in front of you, and Ye behind you. I want all beaches to be public, but then I hate public beaches. meirl.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by tayo42 »

everybodyknows wrote: post #31
paisawalla wrote: post #14

If we in CA could achieve compliance with the already standing laws against loud exhaust to anywhere near the levels we have with, say, plastic straw riddance, the resulting benefit to society would be drastically superior. I can't think of anything with a lower cost/benefit ratio than just the wholesale confiscation and ban of Harleys.

A generation or so ago vehicle noise laws actually were enforced in California, and now it seems they effectively are not. No obvious technology change behind it, rather somehow the will to enforce has eroded, and/or the burden of proof has shifted away from the perps.

I think it's attitude. Being loud is rude, but some how also calling others out in their rude behavior is more rude so you can't do it.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by ben-schaaf »

Gigachad wrote: post #28
throw__away7391 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because almost all the noise in the modern world is caused by cars and motorcycles, and in the United States are prioritized over all other life forms.

Imo it should become regulation that all cars have to have some audio transparency tech like headphones have. Then we would be able to lower the volume of emergency sirens which are obscenely loud to penetrate cars.

Massively reducing car usage is a much better solution with much more wide-spread benefits.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by gotaquestion »

mguerville wrote: post #22
paisawalla wrote: post #14

If we in CA could achieve compliance with the already standing laws against loud exhaust to anywhere near the levels we have with, say, plastic straw riddance, the resulting benefit to society would be drastically superior. I can't think of anything with a lower cost/benefit ratio than just the wholesale confiscation and ban of Harleys.

Agreed, i can’t believe you can get ticketed for a broken taillight but someone can ride a Harley and disrupt hundreds of people anyone, basically anyone within a 50 meter radius, in total impunity.

Maybe because lots of cops like Harley's with straight pipes, or are sympathetic? But they'll certainly ticket bassy low-riders.

Re: Sounding the alarm: How noise hurts the heart (2021)

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Post by jamiek88 »

ghotli wrote: post #23
drstewart wrote: post #2

This is one of the things I struggle with the most in life. I feel like most people don't seem to care about noise pollution and zero care is put into designing living spaces or cities to minimize it. I've moved into apartments and nearly cried because I realized that there was some noise pollution that wasn't apparent when I visited it (e.g. a water boiler that ran constantly at night, road noise during the day, etc…

Sometimes out of a similar desire I will wear noise cancelling earbuds inside of noise cancelling over the ear headphones. No music no sound, pure silence. Obviously not a cheap solution but doubling up is better than any earplugs I've ever used.

I’ve thought about this, does it actually work? I worried there would be weird feedback issues.
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