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Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by itronitron »

tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

What would you estimate to be the Covid vaccination rates in Shanghai?

In many European and American cities the consensus of many people seems to be that Covid 'is over', likely due to high vaccination rates and those that have recovered.

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by rdtwo »

blablablub wrote: post #28
GekkePrutser wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget that China still tries for a zero covid strategy even with variants that are unlikely to overload the health system like Omicron. So whether it's Omicron or a new variant, their response would be the same. Sooner or later they'll have to open up like we did (and things are going just fine). But I think it's a PR issue, they've been preaching the zero covid so long.. They care a lot about their reputation…

The current omicron cases are already overloading the health system in Shanghai. and that are only about 5000 cases.

Is it? Or all all the false positives from over testing creating a huge problem?

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by 3qz »

tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

> life isn't that miserable

> I'm still working 12 hour days online

> we can only buy food through WeChat

This sounds horrible. You don’t have to live like this you know.

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by rdtwo »

blablablub wrote: post #58
GekkePrutser wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that could be a response issue too.. As far as I've heard China hospitalizes everyone even cases that don't need actual care. Also they have some immunity to build up that we have had over the last 2 years. I know it doesn't prevent covid but it does seem to reduce it's severity a lot.

China distinguishes between asymptomatic and "confirmed" cases. In the last 10 days there were around 140k asymptomatic cases - those are shipped to the makeshift hospitals "quarantine centers" you see on TV. During the same time there are around 5k cases with symptoms, as i understand all confirmed with a chest x-ray scan(?). Those go into the covid hospitals, which are now overflowing. Do all of those need to go to…

Considering how many people were tested a bunch of those could just be false positives. They did like 100m tests or something crazy

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by tyng »

3qz wrote: post #93
tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

> life isn't that miserable > I'm still working 12 hour days online > we can only buy food through WeChat This sounds horrible. You don’t have to live like this you know.

I work 12 hour days no matter where I am :D

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by NicoJuicy »

somewhereoutth wrote: post #69
robonerd wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

COVID is pretty much over, lockdowns and mask mandates are being lifted around the free world. However authoritarian governments will likely continue to use it as a lame excuse for years to come.

You mean our fight against Covid is pretty much over - and has ended with complete capitulation. We are now letting it do as it will, for better or for worse - surrendering to our fate.

You do realize we have vaccines now, no?

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by tremon »

itronitron wrote: post #91
tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

What would you estimate to be the Covid vaccination rates in Shanghai? In many European and American cities the consensus of many people seems to be that Covid 'is over', likely due to high vaccination rates and those that have recovered.

the consensus of many people seems to be that Covid 'is over'

Personally, I'll reserve my judgement on that until we're past the normal autumn flu/cold wave. Cases declined last year in the summer too.

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by NicoJuicy »

legulere wrote: post #81
robonerd wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Infection counts are irrelevant. What matters is that relatively few people will be killed by it because vaccination (even the shitty Chinese vax) and natural immunity have changed the equation. In my progressive west coast city, even front-line customer service workers like grocery store employees are abandoning their masks. Covid is becoming endemic, yet mostly harmless. Zero-covid is a delusion for totalitarians.

Death rate is still pretty high in a lot of western countries though: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths

Without lockdowns to flatten the curve.

It's not similar at all

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by tyng »

rdtwo wrote: post #90
tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

What about parents with kids? Everyone stuck doing virtual school and work in tiny apartments?

Schools are closed, and for good reasons. If I'm the parent I wouldn't want my kids to get COVID. The gospel of online education may be coming true? Jokes aside, it's not as miserable as many people may think.

Re: Trapped in lockdown, Shanghai residents turn to WeChat groups for food

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Post by revscat »

3qz wrote: post #93
tyng wrote: post #85

I'm in the lockdown in Shanghai, feel free to ask me any questions. Things you read on the internet is mostly true (but may be exaggerated): Life: Yes we can only buy food through WeChat groups to organise wholesale deliveries (2000 eggs, 200 cabbages minimum order) on hiked prices, but it's easier than you might think; No one has died from starvation (yet), but there had been a few cases of death due to not getting…

> life isn't that miserable > I'm still working 12 hour days online > we can only buy food through WeChat This sounds horrible. You don’t have to live like this you know.

This is unhelpful.
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