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Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by jmrm »

bryan_w wrote: post #61

How can we get the layperson to run a "homeserver" to host all their data locally and have a strong pki infra. 30 years ago, people would've said the same things about routers, so I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives

Probably some ISPs will sell NAS or similar device and, with a monthly fee, you would have external access via a custom domain name (like john_doe.verizon.com, for example).

A lot of non-techy people already have NAS, external hard drives, and things like that. I don't know how ISPs haven't done already this.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by HNHatesUsers »

bryan_w wrote: post #61

How can we get the layperson to run a "homeserver" to host all their data locally and have a strong pki infra. 30 years ago, people would've said the same things about routers, so I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives

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Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by bamboozled »

8note wrote: post #88

I think it's likely that we will see a rise in customs expectations from countries about data that is imported. The great firewall is the prototype, but as the world becomes multipolar again, regional powers will want to control what kinds of data is imported/exported

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Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #87
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives I want that, but for the masses of tech-illiterate Average Joes out there, it's tough to compete against the sheer convenience of "tap next to trust big tech with all your private data and sync it all in the cloud" that you get when you unbox your iPhone/Android. And for most people their phone is their primary computing device now so their lives are tied to those e…

> tap next to trust big tech with all your private data and sync it all in the cloud Consumer NAS management should be way easier. Why can't I tap my phone to my NAS to pair and then go anywhere in the world with a network connection?

Because

1) most consumers have no idea what a NAS is, and even when they do, consumers have been conditioned that all their data is automagically beamed to the Apple/Google cloud at any and all time there's an internet connection without any user involvement beyond entering their ID when they unbox their phone for the first time, so it's impossible for a third party device or service to compete with this level of out of the box integration and convenience

2) NAS devices aren't made by Apple and Google so NAS integration into these ecosystems is a second class experience at best, and Apple and Google will never make NAS devices as they're incentivized to get you to pay for their cloud storage subscriptions for your data. Plus, as a a cherry on top, this way they can silently data-mine you as well.

Basically the industry is moving, or we can argue that it has moved already, towards subscriptions, where you never really own your music/movies/data but have access to it as long as you pay your monthly/yearly fee, because this is so much more lucrative for big-tech than getting you to buy commodity HW like a NAS and physically owning your data.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by richardw »

bryan_w wrote: post #61

How can we get the layperson to run a "homeserver" to host all their data locally and have a strong pki infra. 30 years ago, people would've said the same things about routers, so I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives

Why? Honest question.

I fully appreciate owning your own data and hosting it somewhere, but no idea why we need to host anywhere but hyper-connected data centers.

I’d like to own my social graph, my profile, my permissions for who can contact me and read my data. But no reason for that to execute on my phone or home server. Have service providers do it, compete, scale and specialise. Let me host at home if I want to, but that doesn’t feel like the default we need.

But prove me wrong. I like learning!

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by jmrm »

I don't know if this is totally related to the question, but I think in a near future will be more and more common to have 4G, 5G, or 6G in your devices (not only phone and tablets, but also laptops and desktops computers) instead of using cable, fibre or others and a router.

I don't know in the US, but in most parts of Europe we have reached such levels of speed and low ping that in not too much time it would be more clever and cheaper to ISPs to have more towers than wired solutions.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by jeffreyrogers »

jmrm wrote: post #98

I don't know if this is totally related to the question, but I think in a near future will be more and more common to have 4G, 5G, or 6G in your devices (not only phone and tablets, but also laptops and desktops computers) instead of using cable, fibre or others and a router. I don't know in the US, but in most parts of Europe we have reached such levels of speed and low ping that in not too much time it would be mor…

My home internet (in Seattle) is T-Mobile 5G. Only chose it because there are no high speed wired options for my address, but it works pretty well.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Post by j_san »

I don't know if this is in the category that you're asking for but right now there is tons of experimentation with "Content centric networking" e.g. "Named data networking" to better optimise how we load content inside the web. Instead of using an IP to connect to some server of e.g. Google to get content we just say what data we want and load it from where ever (with better prospects of caching).
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