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New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Hope so. IP is rent seeking and should be abolished. Or china might as well demand everyone pay IP for firecrackers or paper. India, middle east, ASENA, africa, etc should steal as much IP as they can and develop. Just like china did. Just like the US did. Just like everyone did.

Should Russia also do the same? Going back a year, would a similar statement apply to Russia too?

No Russia shall be better than US /s

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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The bigger question is, does it violate any patents? Not necessarily intentionally, but because there's only so many ways you can build a GPU and (almost) all of them are patented already. Apple themselves failed to build a GPU from the ground up, so it's actually difficult.

> does it use any stolen ip? > The bigger question is, does it violate any patents? The former implies the latter. On the other hand if the IP isn't stolen but would still fall afoul of the patent then I would argue that the patent is wrongly provided. Patents don't exist to protect obvious implementations. I'm not a lawyer but we all know patent law is all kinds of fucked up.

> The former implies the latter.

Isn't it the reverse? Patents are one of the several forms of IP that one can violate, so the latter should imply the former.

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Who cares? Intellectual property frankly makes no sense if you don’t worship money.

It makes sense if you have one scheme that creates that is choked out by a different scheme that copies instead. Eventually there is no creation.

Patents also choke creativity, and arguably in a worse way. If you can't remix existing ideas, how are you supposed to create anything useful if you need to come up with an alternative scheme to every component problem that has already been solved but is already patented.

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Hope so. IP is rent seeking and should be abolished. Or china might as well demand everyone pay IP for firecrackers or paper. India, middle east, ASENA, africa, etc should steal as much IP as they can and develop. Just like china did. Just like the US did. Just like everyone did.

Time limited "rent seeking" that feeds the technologists necessary to develop the technology. In the absence of IP businesses just rely on obfuscation to try to get the same effect, except now you don't have a patent application to read and can't take someone to court for stealing your years of research.

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Should all software be licensed as public domain or the closes available to PD in countries that don't allow public domain software?

Software is a lot less important than patents. Patents should not be allowed or should expire in a year.

Licenses are intellectual property too so I am a bit confused why the difference? Was the first statement just over broad? Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand your position when I am a bit tired.

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Who cares? Intellectual property frankly makes no sense if you don’t worship money.

> Intellectual property frankly makes no sense if you don’t worship money.

Patents incentivize inventors to publicly disclose how their inventions work. They publicly disclose how their invention works and in exchange are given exclusive rights to it for a limited period of time.

This is predicated on the idea that in the absence of such a system, inventors have strong incentives to not disclose how their inventions work, which ultimately slows the spread of knowledge and puts a damper on innovation.

What parts of this do not make sense? How else would you solve the problem of incentives around disclosing how technologies work?

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Is "Moore" of the company's name is the "Moore" of Moore's law? If so, I wonder why one would name his/her company after their competitor's founder.

I feel like it has double meaning, both with "Moore's Law" and "More Threads".

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Depends on how you define stolen in this context.

It uses GPU IP from IMG commonly known as PowerVR, the same technology powering current Apple's GPU and some Mediatek SoC. And IMG the company is now wholly owned by Chinese Private Equity Fund. The fund acquired IMG when Apple claimed to no longer be using any of their IP and caused their market valuation to drop by more than 70%.

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