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Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by nomay » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:47 PM UTC

curling_grad wrote: post #6

Is "Moore" of the company's name is the "Moore" of Moore's law? If so, I wonder why one would name his/her company after their competitor's founder.

Yes it is, the name is a stereotypical western name, which alone is preferred choice for Chinese brands hoping for the most hype and recognition, and the phrase Moore's law is pretty wellknown in China for geopolitial reasons, tho most of the people don't know and don't care about it's backstory.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by nynx » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:48 PM UTC

JaimeThompson wrote: post #19

nynx wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares? Intellectual property frankly makes no sense if you don’t worship money.

Should all software be licensed as public domain or the closes available to PD in countries that don't allow public domain software?

Software is a lot less important than patents. Patents should not be allowed or should expire in a year.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by qiskit » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:50 PM UTC

AbuAssar wrote: post #2

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Hope so. IP is rent seeking and should be abolished. Or china might as well demand everyone pay IP for firecrackers or paper.

India, middle east, ASENA, africa, etc should steal as much IP as they can and develop. Just like china did. Just like the US did. Just like everyone did.

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Post by cscurmudgeon » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

qiskit wrote: post #23

AbuAssar wrote: post #2

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Hope so. IP is rent seeking and should be abolished. Or china might as well demand everyone pay IP for firecrackers or paper. India, middle east, ASENA, africa, etc should steal as much IP as they can and develop. Just like china did. Just like the US did. Just like everyone did.

Should Russia also do the same? Going back a year, would a similar statement apply to Russia too?

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by throwaway4good » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

ramesh31 wrote: post #9

curling_grad wrote: post #6

Is "Moore" of the company's name is the "Moore" of Moore's law? If so, I wonder why one would name his/her company after their competitor's founder.

Same reason I have a $25 pair of "Tesla" brand sneakers from Amazon. The Chinese are as obsessed with American brands as we are.

Yeah - because Tesla is a classic all-American name, right?!

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Post by chaboud » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:00 PM UTC

jbay808 wrote: post #18

machinekob wrote: post #14

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As it is in China you can bet on it. There were no major china tech company that product something and do not steal tech from "west" yet (maybe there are smaller companies but no big tech got it yet).

DJI seems pretty big. Whose tech are they stealing?

They scuffed with Autel and initially lost (but then had that patent invalidated), and their currently brewing fight is with Bell Textron for camera control.

(This is just a quick googling. I have no skin in this game either way, but I believe that the assertion that Chinese companies always steal is a bigoted position to take. Perhaps a more accurate description would be that IP is most commonly held by incumbent businesses, and businesses in China in new segments are, necessarily, new to market.)

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by throwaway4good » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

bcatanzaro wrote: post #17

Importantly, it appears some of their GPU comes from Imagination Technology. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/chinas-little-nvidia...

Even if relies on TSMC and IP-blocks purchased from other companies - it is still cool that a 2-year old startup can create graphics card that appears to compete with what giants like NVDIA and AMD are offering.

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Post by hulitu » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

throwaway4good wrote: post #25

ramesh31 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason I have a $25 pair of "Tesla" brand sneakers from Amazon. The Chinese are as obsessed with American brands as we are.

Yeah - because Tesla is a classic all-American name, right?!

Yes, today Tesla is a classic all-American name. I really doubt that many people heard about this obscure guy called Nikola Tesla.

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Post by randyrand » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

jbay808 wrote: post #18

machinekob wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it is in China you can bet on it. There were no major china tech company that product something and do not steal tech from "west" yet (maybe there are smaller companies but no big tech got it yet).

DJI seems pretty big. Whose tech are they stealing?

DJI is mostly an assembler.

Re: New Chinese GPU Maker Moore Threads Unveils the MTT S60 GPU

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Post by WithinReason » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:03 PM UTC

bcatanzaro wrote: post #17

Importantly, it appears some of their GPU comes from Imagination Technology. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/chinas-little-nvidia...

There's another Chinese GPU coming based on that design:

https://videocardz.com/newz/innosilicon-graphics-cards-based...