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Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#41

I feel like 45min to 60min high intensity interval training (HIIT) cardiovascular exercise (e.g. swimming, running, rowing, bicycling, stairs, elliptical, etc) would be cheaper and address a host of other health issues also. Include some compound weight lifting like pull ups, deadlift, squat, bench press, lunges, and core workouts like planks, and I bet outcomes greatly exceed whatever an app can provide.

Exercise is great but meditation is also valuable for some people. And it doesn’t get cheaper than meditation, you don’t need anything outside yourself, except maybe a pillow and some time.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#42

It's possible to set up a daily reminder system for helping yourself with ah, 'behavioral modification' etc. using Linux and cron: > "Cron is one of Linux’s most useful tools and a developer favorite because it allows you to run automated commands at specific periods, dates, and intervals using both general-purpose and task-specific scripts. Given that description, you can imagine how system admins use it to automate…

I think SMS might be a bit better than email for this.

I did this on my Mac for a while using cron and OSAScript to show a desktop notification.

https://www.breckenridge.dev/2021/10/12/using-cron-and-mac-n...

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#43
Personally the Whim Hof method has been a game changer for me. The breathing exercises are the fastest way to clear my head, even if you never do the cold exposure training he's famous for. I believe he has an app that guides you through his meditations/breathing but there's also plenty of YouTube videos that walk you through it as well.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#44

I feel like 45min to 60min high intensity interval training (HIIT) cardiovascular exercise (e.g. swimming, running, rowing, bicycling, stairs, elliptical, etc) would be cheaper and address a host of other health issues also. Include some compound weight lifting like pull ups, deadlift, squat, bench press, lunges, and core workouts like planks, and I bet outcomes greatly exceed whatever an app can provide.

For meditation I think people are trying to "meditate".

Where I would get same benefits from 45-60 min cardio where I focus on the training and rhythm of music.

I definitely also felt "meditation" effects from reading books - but of course with intense focus on the book not thinking about anything else and not having tv running in background and people trying to talk to me.

In the end I do believe I get the same benefits when I focus on something intensely so basically any hobby.

Watching series on streaming services is for me not that immersive and too much stimuli so it does not work that.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#45

After trying Headspace and Calm I settled on the app Waking Up[0] and have been using it for a couple of years now. It's been a huge help. It's a lot more than just a guided meditation app. While you can get some benefits from simply practicing meditation, it can feel a bit aimless. What I like about Waking Up is the conversations with experienced meditators where they talk about the practice itself. These serve as a…

> While you can get some benefits from simply practicing meditation, it can feel a bit aimless Isn’t that… the point of meditation?

Different types of meditation have different goals, somewhat like different types of exercise have different goals.

Meditation isn't about closing your eyes and doing nothing. It takes effort, at least until you are proficient.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#46

After trying Headspace and Calm I settled on the app Waking Up[0] and have been using it for a couple of years now. It's been a huge help. It's a lot more than just a guided meditation app. While you can get some benefits from simply practicing meditation, it can feel a bit aimless. What I like about Waking Up is the conversations with experienced meditators where they talk about the practice itself. These serve as a…

I love Waking Up. It's Sam Harris walking you through how to do it in a practical way.

I'll admit that until I tried it, I thought meditating was either just sitting there trying there trying to think no thoughts or it had some sort of religious connection that just wasn't for me. After using it for months, I realized it's a way to be present, acknowledge that thoughts are things that merely arise, and most of all, things that you can discard instead of letting them impact you.

I started trying it when he said that he'll do it for 30 seconds just standing in line at Starbucks if he feels some sort of anxiety, or before he goes on stage. That kind of thing felt practical to me, so I gave it a go. I've used the app on and off for over a year, often starting from the first guided session from scratch and working back through them when I lose the habit.

I don't do the guided sessions anymore, mostly listen to the interviews in the app that you point out. But I meditate in the morning almost every day now, and right after, I try to think of the person I want to be, and then I start my day. I got that tip from Eben Pagan (of David DeAngelo dating advice fame) after realizing I usually just wake up and am the person that I feel like, like sometimes I'd wake up and feel low confidence, and I would kinda be a low confidence person all day. Meanwhile, all I had to do was simply decide to take another path.

I dismissed all of this kind of stuff as BS for most of my life. I was 30 when I finally tried Waking Up and I finally see that there's something practical behind these things.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#47

After trying Headspace and Calm I settled on the app Waking Up[0] and have been using it for a couple of years now. It's been a huge help. It's a lot more than just a guided meditation app. While you can get some benefits from simply practicing meditation, it can feel a bit aimless. What I like about Waking Up is the conversations with experienced meditators where they talk about the practice itself. These serve as a…

> While you can get some benefits from simply practicing meditation, it can feel a bit aimless Isn’t that… the point of meditation?

I think they're mainly referring to the "what am I doing here?" phase that most people seem to go through when they start meditating.

It's exactly why I never managed to make a habit out of it.

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#48
Some friends / former colleagues an awesome app called Finch, which uses a bit of a behavioral tweak. Often, when you're feeling down, it's hard to take care of yourself in a disciplined way (eg mediation apps).

So Finch uses the concept of a virtual pet (with a twist) and, in taking care of the pet, you end up taking care of yourself. It's brilliant. (Also mostly free but with a paid upgrade).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.finch.finc...

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#49

I think you're misunderstanding the point of these apps, which might very well be intentional on these companies' part to get you to spend money on something that you might not need. Therapy doesn't "solve" anything by itself, you must see it as a tool to help you put your mind in a better position so that you can solve your problems. Lots of people see these as magical apps that will somehow magically make them bett…

> I think you're misunderstanding the point of these apps

Reminds me of the "Why are you trying to do this?" reply that is almost automatic on Stackoverflow, lol

Re: Ask HN: Have you had any real benefits from apps like Headspace, Fabulous, etc?

#50
I’ve used Headspace for years and it changed my life. Guided meditation and learning how to work with my emotions has gotten me through some rough times and PTSD. The amount of content in the app like daily videos, exercises, sleep aid and more keeps me there. Headspace is expensive, but I renew every year because it works for me. The only negative I have to add is they they need to make a decent iPad app.
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