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Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#71
post #17

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Consider yourself fortunate, you were spared pain of using JIRA and Confluence

What are the pains of using Jira and confluence?

Confluence content is write only.

Good luck finding it ever again unless you know exactly what you are looking for.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#72
post #8

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From what I understand, Atlassian is pushing hard to move everyone to their cloud offerings. I think the only way to run on-prem stuff now is to use the Enterprise or Data Center offerings, which are stupid expensive.

How has no one open-sourced a competing product by now? It feels like the universe where Git was never invented and everyone stayed subscribed to Perforce. Are executives just scared of getting fired for moving off of Azure DevOps and Jira? They’re both garbage pieces of software and everyone who uses them knows it.

I think the reason nobody open sources a competitor is because most people in a position to develop such a thing don’t think the solution to the overarching problems the Atlassian tools supposedly solve is a similar suite of tools.

I’ve learned to translate “We need to buy into Atlassian’s suite” as “our process is broken and we’re blaming the tools.” This has the standard “now you have two problems” punchline. I’ve seen this play out several times at companies of varying sizes. The endgame “fix” is always that one or more people become entirely devoted to wrangling the complexities of the Atlassian stuff, but a dedicated person/team would have fixed the problem with the old tools, too.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#73
post #11

I can see being down for a couple of hours or possibly even a day. But 4 days is a bit much. Couldn't they restore from a cold backup in less time than that?

JIRA was up and fine on Friday; so, not all of their products have been down that long.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#74
post #17

Isn’t this the sort of thing that would normally have made it to the first page here a while ago? Just asking, I’ve never used any of their products

Consider yourself fortunate, you were spared pain of using JIRA and Confluence

IME Jira is fine when on-prem and managed by a good admin, but that's become impossible as they're forcing customers to move to their cloud offering.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#75
post #69

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What are the pains of using Jira and confluence?

Jira requires a person to tailor it to your org. It can be pretty good if you have people who configure it correctly and have a workflow that suits your team/org, but that's kinda the problem: making Jira be good is a full time job. Confluence is just a terrible experience overall. Terrible editing, terrible browsing, terrible search. I've used both at multiple orgs, I've seen Jira be good, I've never seen Confluence…

Yeah, same experience here. Confluence is just dogshit: the only positive thing I can say about it is that it's better as a wiki than using Google Drive with Docs, which can memory hole even faster if it's not set up correctly.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#77
post #17

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Consider yourself fortunate, you were spared pain of using JIRA and Confluence

What are the pains of using Jira and confluence?

Trello is also terrible software. It's basically a web interface for agile post-it notes.

Compared to decent project management software it has almost no project management features.

Re: Atlassian products have been down for 4 days

#79
post #47

We just started moving to JIRA after a few years of Gitlab, where gitlab issues feels like nobody has worked on it for a long time. And Jira has been really great. The sprint boards, concept of mapping statuses to in progress etc have all been great. My one gripe (and it’s not a small one) is performance. It still feels quite sluggish. Is Atlassian ever going to address this?

> My one gripe (and it’s not a small one) is performance. It still feels quite sluggish. Is Atlassian ever going to address this?

oh my sweet summer child

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