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Re: Back to India

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It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

NATO/EU and US are allies/friends and West never been friend or kind to India/Indians.

I was referring to this part from grandparent: > The US, Europe, and allies should be doing whatever we can to support this.

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It’s not about the ethnicity of the people who have immigrated, but not creating incentives for new people to come here permanently. Not “no Indians” but instead “America is full.” I don’t believe America really needs high skill labor. When my family came here in 1989, America was already the undisputed #1, and there were less than 1 million desis in the country. Today there are over 6 million—but America is in decli…

> America is in decline I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but can you be more specific about which metrics America is objectively declining at?

Our social indicators are bad. Since 1990, marriage rates have been cut in half, out of wedlock births have doubled among white Americans, the fertility rate has dropped well below replacement. Suicide rates have been increasing for 25 years. Life expectancy peaked in 2014 and dropped since then. Drug overdoses were under 10,000 in 1990 and just broke 100,000 last year. The economy continues to grow, but if you hadn’t noticed, that doesn’t seem to be making people happy. Young Americans have this profound pessimism—which is apparent from our increasingly bitter politics—that simply cannot be explained by the GDP numbers.

Re: Back to India

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post #227

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It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

Wow. The manufactured consent generating machine is still working as expected.

You never ever oppose "the current thing."

Re: Back to India

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The real geopolitics behind this is that Russia is trying to curb NATO influence. So this war is really about hurting NATO. A Russian loss helps NATO and a victory hurts NATO, but the war can be ended if either side makes the requisite concessions. But for unaffiliated parties they don’t necessarily take a pro-NATO stance so anti-war or anti-violence simply means “somebody please give in” rather than “NATO please win…

You use a lot of words in your post but none are "Ukraine". Ukrainians have the right to decide what they want to do and what, if anything, to give up.

Ukrainians certainly can, but you can't ignore the fact that a lot of NATO's motivations for helping isn't just altruism. Part of this is also the proxy war being fought, and even if India and China want Ukraine to win, they may not want to be the ones paying for a NATO victory.

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> This is great to hear about India. It is and I hope india is able to develop. > The more developed and economically successful the world’s largest democracy is, the better for the world in general. Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? It's so odd people parrot the propaganda so religiously. Every post about india inevitably mentions something about india being the largest democracy. Who cares? If india wa…

>Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? Anybody who wants to do business. Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is going take your assets?

Have you heard of civil forfeiture?

Re: Back to India

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post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

The real geopolitics behind this is that Russia is trying to curb NATO influence. So this war is really about hurting NATO. A Russian loss helps NATO and a victory hurts NATO, but the war can be ended if either side makes the requisite concessions. But for unaffiliated parties they don’t necessarily take a pro-NATO stance so anti-war or anti-violence simply means “somebody please give in” rather than “NATO please win…

The recent tension kicked off in 2013 and was based on Ukraine approaching the EU. Over time Putin has sold the NATO story well since then but he started trying to directly control Ukraine politics in 2013 when they said they wanted to move forward with their EU candidacy. Ukrainians didn't accept this "veto" from Moscow hence Euromaidan and that led Putin to do what he did in Crimea and Donbass. None of that was about NATO

Ukraine becoming a more successful county like all the other countries that have joined the EU would have made Russians wonder if Putin was holding them back given their closeness to Ukraine and more advantageous starting point.

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> Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Really? Russia? Venezuela? They are democracies. Also, do you realize that many of the world's poorest and unstable countries are democracies? India has been a democracy for nearly 80 years. Nobody wants to do business with them. Everyone wants to do business with china. Go figure. > Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is…

Quite sick that you and GGP are referring to Russia as a democracy. It's a dictatorship

There are no actual major democracies. The USA for example is an oligarchy whose oligarchs find it convenient to masquerade as a democratic republic[1]. The NATO countries are de facto US satrapies. I believe the Russian invasion of Ukraine is both immoral and imprudent, but the utter puerility of discourse on Russia grossly disappoints me.

[1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-poli...

Re: Back to India

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> This is great to hear about India. It is and I hope india is able to develop. > The more developed and economically successful the world’s largest democracy is, the better for the world in general. Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? It's so odd people parrot the propaganda so religiously. Every post about india inevitably mentions something about india being the largest democracy. Who cares? If india wa…

> Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? Every human being on the planet who doesn't want to live in a dictatorship subject to the whims of one or few strongmen, or to be disappeared with no legal recourse for saying or thinking the wrong thing, or to have the valuable things they've built stolen by the unaccountable powerful. There was a brief interregnum to history after the fall of the USSR, where we all t…

Regarding Japan, I think the parent comment was referring to the 1980s US-Japan trade war. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord

Re: Back to India

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fuel vs freezing to death, not quite the same. And Europe is not filled with rich countries.

It's EU and NATO who fooled Ukraine. Your complains are misplaced.

like russia didnt keep the nation in a boa constrictor for centuries. Rebellion was inevitable, expecially with access to the internet, outside the good propaganda.
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