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Re: Back to India

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Post by mama123 »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

It is more like India doesn't trust that the west actually has an intent of stopping the conflict.

Or that Europe would in anyway want to give up on its Russian gas and oil, while pointing fingers at India which buys less than 1%.

In fact they fear it might go the same way as the sanctions on Iran, where India had to go through Germany banks to pay its Iranian dues, where Indian banks were expected to abide by sanctions while German banks were not.

Re: Back to India

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Post by throwaway_1928 »

krzyk wrote: post #269
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a simplistic assessment of India's strategic situation.

Your point being? They literally hosted Russia Foreign Minister week or two ago. They abstained in votes against Russia for that invasion in UN. US warned them no to go in bed with Russia. Do you think EU or US will look kindly to support India now?

The US and EU governments have a much deeper understanding of India's strategic position than your comment gives them credit for.

Re: Back to India

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Post by ajonit »

qiskit wrote: post #246
multjoy wrote: post #235

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>Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? Anybody who wants to do business. Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is going take your assets?

> Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Really? Russia? Venezuela? They are democracies. Also, do you realize that many of the world's poorest and unstable countries are democracies? India has been a democracy for nearly 80 years. Nobody wants to do business with them. Everyone wants to do business with china. Go figure. > Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is…

> Nobody wants to do business with them

Last I know all major nations and big corporations of the world are queuing up to invest in India.

Re: Back to India

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Post by throwaway675309 »

1024core wrote: post #268
ramraj07 wrote: post #112

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Presumed wrong. I don’t comment on the state of affairs without having been back. Again I want to contribute to humanity and this planet, I don’t pledge allegiance to a line drawn by dipshits 70 years back.

> Again I want to contribute to humanity and this planet, I assume you're going to travel on a "humanity" passport...? Or are you going to eat some crow and "pledge allegiance" to some country?

Just because he recognizes the absurdities of jingoistic tribalism across arbitrary longitudinal lines doesn't mean that he's unaware of the unfortunate reality of the world we live in.

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Post by krzyk »

warner_of_doom wrote: post #273
krzyk wrote: post #263

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You didn't see Germany criticized for buying oil from Russia? Boy, they are the most criticized country for doing that (and oil and gas) - they basically enabled Russia to do the invasion. Nord Stream 1 and 2 come to mind. They made themselves (and few other countries) dependent on that bloody import. India received Lawrow recently, he is not allowed in any EU country. But there is a difference in long dependency and…

> India received Lawrow recently, he is not allowed in any EU country. And? Your point? Speaking to diplomats is suddenly taboo? > India is not dependent on Russian oil No. But, it is dependent on oil and gas being cheap enough to make basic inputs with. It is a region and country on the brink of poverty in many ways. What did you expect?

> And? Your point? Speaking to diplomats is suddenly taboo?

You can speak on phone, receiving one from countries killing civilians on purpose is making a statement. If you make a statement you will be heard, and I don't think many EU countries will be happy. Not to mention, you know humanitarian aspects - you can buy your oil without blood.

Re: Back to India

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Post by foolinaround »

krzyk wrote: post #263
zaptheimpaler wrote: post #251

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Germany continues to buy oil from Russia too, but I never see them being criticized for it. They bought oil for decades from Russia, arguably funding the current invasion, yet that was held up as a shining example of how interdepenence via trading can maintain peace between nations. There's always a double standard at play. For EU, buying oil is a necessary evil. For India, it's "supporting" the enemy.

You didn't see Germany criticized for buying oil from Russia? Boy, they are the most criticized country for doing that (and oil and gas) - they basically enabled Russia to do the invasion. Nord Stream 1 and 2 come to mind. They made themselves (and few other countries) dependent on that bloody import. India received Lawrow recently, he is not allowed in any EU country. But there is a difference in long dependency and…

> India is not dependent on Russian oil,

Is oil the only thing a country can be dependent on?

Also, what are you? Some Eastern European, who has some emotional ties to the region? 99% of Indians have never heard of Ukraine, and yet, Indians should sacrifice their one steady ally who has stood with India all these decades?

Re: Back to India

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Post by mama123 »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

And did you consult India before you orchestrated the regime changes and laid the seeds for conflict.

India isn't a colony, and India is capable of and willing to be a mediator to bring peace, the west isn't or won't.

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Post by wiseowise »

hemreldop wrote: post #275
mongol wrote: post #266

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The situation in Ukraine is more black and white than most others. That India can't recognize that both surprised me and disappointed me. It would make a big difference if they dared to speak out against Russian agression. Even if they would like to remain on friendly terms with Russia they should recognize the atrociousy which Russia displays in Ukraine. Putin needs to hear it also from India.

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Azov is less than thousand men. Stop this straw man.

Re: Back to India

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Post by mama123 »

krzyk wrote: post #269
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a simplistic assessment of India's strategic situation.

Your point being? They literally hosted Russia Foreign Minister week or two ago. They abstained in votes against Russia for that invasion in UN. US warned them no to go in bed with Russia. Do you think EU or US will look kindly to support India now?

So your point is let the conflict brew and let us isolate Russia but let us not help negotiate peace.
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