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Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

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Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

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well the argument of number is tricky since nobody has the number except Google. But another product of google's own, Google Trends, do help to see the decline. See here: http://bit.ly/rlq9aR

that is people searching for 'google+' a more accurate graph is: http://www.google.com/trends?q=plus.google.com&ctab=0&#3... and that only shows up until the end of Sep and doesn't include the few days last week that google+ was linked to from the homepage of google.com

They are a bit less than allrecipes.com

http://www.google.com/trends?q=plus.google.com%2Callrecipes....

7M uniques: http://www.quantcast.com/allrecipes.com

I would estimate G+ getting 5M uniques. However, what would be interesting is to know the pageviews.

Facebook recently said they had recieved 500M visitors in a single day.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

#42
I feel like G+ is like a breath of fresh air after having 50 or more mundane minutia thrown at me every few minutes on Facebook. It's exhausting, especially that new ticker.

G+ is clean, wide open and just the content people want to share at that moment. Not also what page they liked 3 months ago, the last 4 spotify songs they listened to and all the comments they made on other people's posts they made (that are often not even people on my friend's list. Hello privacy?!?)

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Five times more users, that stayed.

And yet still a decidedly non-mainstream audience: http://socialstatistics.com/top/people/followers/0 G+ has no hope unless they can somehow break into the mainstream. It's not looking good right now.

Quit changing the topic. You asked "How is this a success for Google+?"

What's the bar now? Suddenly being #1?

Anyways, whatever. I'm not on G+ because I'm not a fan of their real-name policy and I certainly don't care if they win or lose. I was just pointing out that you were playing the same game the newspaper was - asking a crazy question given the nearly five-times increase in traffic over a single month.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

#45
post #5

I assume there will be much tighter integration of Google+ into the next major release of Android which should help solve the 'ghost town' problem so many people are seeing with Google+ at this point. Ultimately they may have to give SmartPhone makers some incentive to stop bundling the Facebook app/integration on their devices. (or just make their own)

> Ultimately they may have to give SmartPhone makers some incentive to stop bundling the Facebook app/integration on their devices. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft I'm not trying to be snide either, Microsoft leveraged its relationships with OEMs to incentivize them to stop bundling netscape. I don't think that Google would play that dirty, but it's certainly thin ice.

Google isn't a monopoly.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

#46
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet still a decidedly non-mainstream audience: http://socialstatistics.com/top/people/followers/0 G+ has no hope unless they can somehow break into the mainstream. It's not looking good right now.

Quit changing the topic. You asked " How is this a success for Google+? " What's the bar now? Suddenly being #1? Anyways, whatever. I'm not on G+ because I'm not a fan of their real-name policy and I certainly don't care if they win or lose. I was just pointing out that you were playing the same game the newspaper was - asking a crazy question given the nearly five-times increase in traffic over a single month.

No topic was ever changed - we all know Google is in this game to beat (or at least, take a significant minority share) of Facebook's traffic.

The number of users it gained need not be relevant to this goal - they need to gain the right users, and so far that's just not happening. They've won over the technorati, and puzzlingly enough, the photography community. But how many of your non-tech friends are actually on G+? Much less using it?

> ""How is this a success for Google+?""

For one thing, that wasn't me. But let's say it was. Your claim that traffic jumped by 5x is supposed to imply that this was a success for Google - but it's nothing of the sort. Without breaking into the mainstream, Google has no hope of capturing the type of market share, ever, that they are clearly after.

Google is not in this to build a niche social network for the techno-elite.

> "What's the bar now? Suddenly being #1"

What a ridiculous straw man. Nobody says G+ needs to be #1 overnight. But at least movement in the right direction (i.e., mainstream appeal) is necessary if one is to reasonably claim that G+ is succeeding. That's simply not happening.

> "I was just pointing out that you were playing the same game the newspaper was - asking a crazy question given the nearly five-times increase in traffic over a single month."

The newspaper asked a relevant question. Are we supposed to just blindly swallow any number and interpret it in the default manner? By your logic, Groupon is smashingly successful company with strong growth numbers - but we know it's not playing well into their end-game. Neither is this playing into G+'s desired endgame.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ultimately they may have to give SmartPhone makers some incentive to stop bundling the Facebook app/integration on their devices. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft I'm not trying to be snide either, Microsoft leveraged its relationships with OEMs to incentivize them to stop bundling netscape. I don't think that Google would play that dirty, but it's certainly thin ice.

Google isn't a monopoly.

But they probably have the size and the market power that would make regulators take an interest in such behavior.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

#48
post #27

The source is the Daily Mail. Anyone familiar with that rag will know never to take whatever they say as truth. Surprised they didn't run with 'Google+ gives you cancer'.

Funny. True in general. But in this case The Daily Mail aren't necessarily being deliberately disingenuous.* What the original post is saying as that when the doors opened to the public, Google+ traffic went up nearly 5-fold in a month from a private Google-staff-and-their-freinds beta. Even if we ignore the fact that it went up 1200% and then dropped back again, 5-fold seems a little disappointing. Also, surely it i…

Whatever happens with G+, I hope it stays around. It's twitter with longer posts, and facebook without the idiots. Aside from the network effect not having kicked in yet, it really is an ideal service for me.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

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post #42

I feel like G+ is like a breath of fresh air after having 50 or more mundane minutia thrown at me every few minutes on Facebook. It's exhausting, especially that new ticker. G+ is clean, wide open and just the content people want to share at that moment. Not also what page they liked 3 months ago, the last 4 spotify songs they listened to and all the comments they made on other people's posts they made (that are ofte…

how do you know that this isn't due to the (small, even if we're being charitable) size of the community rather than a G+ design choice? if it's the former rather than the latter, your days of liking G+ are numbered.

Re: Google+ traffic grew by 480% in one month so press reports a 60% decline.

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny. True in general. But in this case The Daily Mail aren't necessarily being deliberately disingenuous.* What the original post is saying as that when the doors opened to the public, Google+ traffic went up nearly 5-fold in a month from a private Google-staff-and-their-freinds beta. Even if we ignore the fact that it went up 1200% and then dropped back again, 5-fold seems a little disappointing. Also, surely it i…

Whatever happens with G+, I hope it stays around. It's twitter with longer posts, and facebook without the idiots. Aside from the network effect not having kicked in yet, it really is an ideal service for me.

We had a service like that in Finland, called Qaiku. Now quite a lot of the users seem to have migrated to Google+
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