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U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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Now the question is: What major options do privacy advocates have apart from hosting their own mailservers?

GPG. It's easy to use and can even easily plug right into Thunderbird and Thunderbird Portable (USB).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you host it yourself but at a regular hosting provider "they" might just confiscate your servers. Increasing email encryption usability might be the road out of this dilemma. Otherwise email encryption is going to stay within a very small circle of users.

When I said "Host your own" I meant on a physically secure box using full disk encryption. But I do like the idea of encryption, GPG does this really well already but key distribution is still a problem. Just an idea for a secure physical box: Throw in a external "always on" GPS receiver on the box and have it physically destroy the hard drive if it is outside of a certain area or if it detects a certain amount of mo…

When you say "physically destroy" do not use any form or anything that could be spun as a incinderary, explosive, or projectile device. The laws on those type of things will put you in prison for a long time.

Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you host it yourself but at a regular hosting provider "they" might just confiscate your servers. Increasing email encryption usability might be the road out of this dilemma. Otherwise email encryption is going to stay within a very small circle of users.

When I said "Host your own" I meant on a physically secure box using full disk encryption. But I do like the idea of encryption, GPG does this really well already but key distribution is still a problem. Just an idea for a secure physical box: Throw in a external "always on" GPS receiver on the box and have it physically destroy the hard drive if it is outside of a certain area or if it detects a certain amount of mo…

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Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I said "Host your own" I meant on a physically secure box using full disk encryption. But I do like the idea of encryption, GPG does this really well already but key distribution is still a problem. Just an idea for a secure physical box: Throw in a external "always on" GPS receiver on the box and have it physically destroy the hard drive if it is outside of a certain area or if it detects a certain amount of mo…

When you say "physically destroy" do not use any form or anything that could be spun as a incinderary, explosive, or projectile device. The laws on those type of things will put you in prison for a long time.

How would one go about safely destroying multiple hard-disks anyway. Closest thing I can think of is a small compactor with the disks inside of it.

Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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A good (but already known) reason to leave gmail.

How is it a gmail only problem? The government got a court order to force them, Google didn't hand it over willingly. It's the government who is at fault here and the shitty laws that enable it.

The article states that the government had a court order but didn't have a search warrant. It seems there is a loop in the system with the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. My questions is, did Google 'have' to give over his Gmail account information? Or do they just comply to make their lives easier?

Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it a gmail only problem? The government got a court order to force them, Google didn't hand it over willingly. It's the government who is at fault here and the shitty laws that enable it.

The article states that the government had a court order but didn't have a search warrant. It seems there is a loop in the system with the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. My questions is, did Google 'have' to give over his Gmail account information? Or do they just comply to make their lives easier?

In today's society 'having to' and making your life easier is just about the same thing. Don't want to comply citizen? We do have those antitrust hearings scheduled in a few weeks, would be a shame if we found out you were running a monopoly and had to break up your company.

When US citizens are assassinated by presidential order rather than being brought to trial it's probably time to 'make your life easier' rather than wait around for the ICC.

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