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Re: Zas Editor

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It's still possible to ship cross-platform native software. People just pretend like it doesn't exist because it's too hard, and so I respond by pretending like their software doesn't exist.

What's the correct way to ship cross platform native software that doesn't require me to write it in C or C++?

There are Go and Python bindings for Qt. Also Rust has now an early support for it

Re: Zas Editor

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Mentioning that it’s Mac only, and that it’s not free software, would help keep plenty of people from wasting their time.

I think it is okay to assume that people who frequent a forum mostly inhabited by people who create software for a living would be okay with software that you would have to pay for.

My comment is not an objection to the existence of software that you have to pay for, nor to this piece of software in particular. But for me, and, clearly, many here, either the Mac-only fact, or the non-free fact, mean that we’re simply not interested, and we’re only informed of these facts after many pages. (The beer facet of free software is the least important part.)

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I don't mind that I have to pay for it. I do mind that it's not free software.

Problem is, people mostly don't pay for free software. Even if they know how hard it is to make it. The free software we have, we got thanks to corporate charity.

I don't agree. Most of the free software on my desktop was made by individuals who in their spare time. That doesn't mean they don't get paid way too little, so your points still stands, but i object to the "corporate charity" angle. Most corporations take way more than they give back.

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Problem is, people mostly don't pay for free software. Even if they know how hard it is to make it. The free software we have, we got thanks to corporate charity.

I don't agree. Most of the free software on my desktop was made by individuals who in their spare time. That doesn't mean they don't get paid way too little, so your points still stands, but i object to the "corporate charity" angle. Most corporations take way more than they give back.

What OS do you run? I'd like that, but the only thing of this sort that has potential to be as usable as a Linux system is BSD, which doesn't run on my machines.

I hope SerenityOS takes off. It's looking good so far.

Re: Zas Editor

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Really liking this editor! It's incredibly performant on Apple silicon for Go development. I'm not sure it is mature and feature-complete enough to take on Goland, but for a v1 release it looks promising.

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Hey. I'm an Editor/IDE aficionado. This could be the start of a really nice macOS native editor. Panics Nova is nice but it is lacking good Go support. However there are many things to get right. These things are needed in order to get competitive imho: - Plugin API - Plugin Marketplace - Proper LSP (you seem to have that already) - DAP Support (you stated you are working on it. Good!) - Out of the box support for go…

You're already familiar with https://www.chimehq.com/ a native go specific editor?

Of course ;) bought a license but it lacks important features for me.

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Is this a serious comment? Shipping native platform binaries is the only reliable way to ship high quality software. Specially in 2022 with all the garbage floating around in virtual machines and "electron" bloatware.

Ever heard of Qt, Xamarin, WxWidgets or FLTK? Electron isn't the only game in the house.

Maybe I misunderstood the comment I was replying to.

I was replying about the "binaries" part. Binaries are always paltform specific.

The "only" part of "platform-only" - I can sympathize with. There are some tools I would like to try but I can't because they are windows only.

That said, it doesn't to me like any of the librarires/tools mentioned are good enough.

Qt is in C++ but from what I've heard its performance is abysmal - at least it's not good enough to justify writing something in Qt instead of html/js/css.

Xamarin I had to use one time and as far as I'm concerned, the DX is bad and the end result is also bad. Again, not good enough to justify using it instead of html/js/css.

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post #306

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I think it is okay to assume that people who frequent a forum mostly inhabited by people who create software for a living would be okay with software that you would have to pay for.

My comment is not an objection to the existence of software that you have to pay for, nor to this piece of software in particular. But for me, and, clearly, many here, either the Mac-only fact, or the non-free fact, mean that we’re simply not interested, and we’re only informed of these facts after many pages. (The beer facet of free software is the least important part.)

The average income here is several sigmas right of what most people make. Mostly from writing software that isn't being given away for free. It isn't like this is some hippie commune. The vast majority of people here are in software to make money. Hopefully a lot of money.

It isn't the kind of place where acting entitled because you didn't get your free lunch makes you look good. I think it would be a bit more dignified to be thankful when something is free (as in beer or otherwise), but respect that some things aren't. For exactly the same reasons most of us are here: to make a living.

Re: Zas Editor

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post #347

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Ever heard of Qt, Xamarin, WxWidgets or FLTK? Electron isn't the only game in the house.

Maybe I misunderstood the comment I was replying to. I was replying about the "binaries" part. Binaries are always paltform specific. The "only" part of "platform-only" - I can sympathize with. There are some tools I would like to try but I can't because they are windows only. That said, it doesn't to me like any of the librarires/tools mentioned are good enough. Qt is in C++ but from what I've heard its performance…

Honestly curious, but of all the things I've heard people say about QT it could never be about poor performance, it's generally consistently regarded as the fastest complete GUI toolkit out. Even more so because the Linux desktop environment KDE is built in it and is consistently shown to be both the fastest and lowest memory of near all Linux desktop environments (and certainly among all the big ones), including ones designed to be fast and low memory. Where did this poor performance thing come from and am I missing something lately?

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Permanent license with one year of upgrades is - for serious users - a yearly subscription. With a price tag of $25 that sounds quite reasonable and also viable.

You're right sorry I totally missed the fine print...

bothers me that it's fine print. why do we all have to resort to dark patterns, even among coders making tools for other coders :(
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