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Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by alistairSH »

fires10 wrote: post #233
ngokevin wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to agree. I do understand human desire to put themselves and their families first, and that it's a job at corporations, and that some people view themselves as cogs in capitalism no matter what However when one the pick of the litter, there's a spectrum between getting $1M for a company responsible for polarization, breeding hate, and damaging democracy...to living well comfortably on $200k+ (or even $300k+) t…

Some people the money is necessary for survival. Those salaries are not easy to replicate outside of big tech. Making six figures is difficult in a lot of places. When I interviewed for Meta I knew I would accept what they gave me as they were offering remote at the time. I did not get the job, but I do actually need to support a family. Heck, where I live in the US, I would jump for less than $200k right now.

You do realize that $200k is a massive salary damn near anywhere in the world, right? That’s nearly double the median household in San Jose CA. And 40% above the median household in Sunnyvale. Somewhere near the top-5% nationally.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by aliyfarah »

justinlloyd wrote: post #277

For years I have run in terror at the leetcodes I might be thrown by a tech company that thinks it is a FANG. Looking at the "Blind 75 Must Do Leetcode" problems, I must say, I am disappoint. I just spent four hours on a Friday evening going through each of the problems, and have so far solved 40+ of them, in a less than optimal fashion for the most part, but solved and "correct" to pass the test cases. Some of them…

Please stop lying, you absolutely did not solve 40 leetcode problems in 4 hours. That’s 6 minutes per question, most competitive programmers can’t even do that.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by alistairSH »

oblio wrote: post #289
wyclif wrote: post #234

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What's wild to me is that he had to ask his wife for permission to get more personal time in exchange for getting a much higher paying job. I've been married over 10 years and have two kids, and I don't need permission from anyone to do something that I think is going to improve the life of my loved ones; I just do it. And anyway, 30 min/day x three months seems to be a really small ask considering the dramatic impro…

Talking to your wife about time you'd otherwise spend together is very sensible, especially for a longer period such as 3 months.

Hell, I’d talk to my wife about any job change, regardless of the implications on our free time together. Do I need her explicit permission? No. Do I value her input? Yes.

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Post by jseban »

FridgeSeal wrote: post #252
_moof wrote: post #244

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> Can you blame them. Yes.

I agree. A distinction needs to be drawn between understanding an action and consequences/blame. You can understand why someone does something but still blame them for making the choice. Knowledge doesn’t obviate responsibility.

> Knowledge doesn’t obviate responsibility.

This is true, but the fact here is that you do not have any responsibility of choosing your employer according to some moral standard of "making the world a better place". This is just your random opinion, in the same way as I can believe that it's everyone's moral responsibility to only buy local produce. It's objectively a "good thing" to do, and you are free to make that choice if you want. But you can't just decide that it's "everyone's" responsibility to suddenly follow your arbitrary moral code. That is the definition of being arrogant and judgemental.

This idea of only working for companies that can be proven to not have any negative side effects of their business, is nothing but a virtue signalling trend, that is randomly and unfairly only applied to the tech industry, for some reason. You can choose to live your life according to maximising the virtue signalling points you can score on this trend, if you want, but this is not any responsibility, to act martyr for saving the world.

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

thwayunion wrote: post #56
lelanthran wrote: post #43

"Once I showed the potential salaries to my wife, we both agreed it would be perfectly reasonable for me to ask for 30 minutes of additional “me time” per day to prepare for my next job," What the hell? If he wants 30m to himself each day he needs to clear with his wife? Don't most people get more than 30m free time each day away from their partner? Just what kind of unhealthy relationship is this dude in?

Phrased different: he asked his partner to babysit their 1yr old for an extra 30 minutes without his help every night. If you have a small child, locking yourself in a room and ignoring external stimuli is actually requesting someone else to do labor for you.

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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everdrive wrote: post #350
claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

I just don't think many or most tech companies have anything positive to offer the world. All these companies simply exist to make money. Generally speaking, most companies just exist to make money. To the extent that they improve anyone's lives, is that they support the economy and allow citizens to pay taxes. There are certainly some minority of tech companies which do good in the world, but actually getting hired…

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

notch656a wrote: post #55
Arubis wrote: post #51

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That’s 30m of not helping with a one-year-old. That time is _precious_.

Yeah 30m of extra 'me' time could easily mean the wife loses half her free time. That breeds a TON of marital problems and issues if you don't clear it. A 1 y/o is basically a time vacuum.

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Post by mibollma »

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

While $$$ certainly was on my list, last time I switched other points were more important to me

- distance from home

- work-life balance

- tech stack

- smaller project size - smaller office rooms In the end I picked the highest paying that fit all the criteria above and so far I'm happy with my choice.

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Post by caffeine »

everdrive wrote: post #350
claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

I just don't think many or most tech companies have anything positive to offer the world. All these companies simply exist to make money. Generally speaking, most companies just exist to make money. To the extent that they improve anyone's lives, is that they support the economy and allow citizens to pay taxes. There are certainly some minority of tech companies which do good in the world, but actually getting hired…

> I just don't think many or most tech companies have anything positive to offer the world. All these companies simply exist to make money.

IMHO, making money IS providing something positive to the world. A lot of people are employed, and those people get to buy art or cookies or college for their kids or whatever.

A lot of customers are served, and presumably got something they wanted.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by ghaff »

A lot of focus here on the salary aspect. But he also emphasizes referrals, albeit not necessarily in a personal connection sort of way. When I last changed jobs, a dozen or so years ago, my strategy was basically to put together a short list of companies that I was interested in and had connections at. I started at the top of that list, it worked out, and here I am.
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