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Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by djcapelis »

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

You’re not wrong at all. A lot of us agree with this but the type of people who write blog posts about their process as if searching for a job is a totally generic thing wholly untethered to someone’s goals in their own life outside of pure capital motives don’t cover the interesting bits.

If you want to be a mercenary, read these blog posts.

If you want a job you like working on stuff you care about, avoid this stuff like the plague.

Will you make more in the end? Unclear, but I like to assume that people who work on stuff they care about eventually win under capitalism too. But even if not, I feel like I do fine.

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Post by DeathArrow »

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

Selling your time and knowledge is a business. Why shouldn't you try to do the best deal?

Saving the world is not something you do as an employee of a corporation. That's more suited to a government or NGO position.

And if you care about saving the world, you can do it better in your free time.

There's no reason business should be impacted by ideology. And before having duties to others, you have duties to yourself and your family.

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Post by djcapelis »

wayne-li2 wrote: post #279
yoyohello13 wrote: post #189

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Reading these responses is pretty upsetting. No wonder big tech is so evil. So many talented developers willing to sell their soul for more money. No thought to whether what they’re doing is causing harm to the world.

Reading judgmental comments like this also upsets me. It’s not selling your soul. It’s called being disillusioned with your impact on the world, a feeling that more and more people are feeling. Long gone are the days where you believed an individual could make a difference. At big corp, you are a small cog in the big machine. You are replaceable. I’ve volunteered on political campaigns. I’ve volunteered for non profi…

Because not everyone is a twenty year old second generation immigrant with no family wealth who needs a lifeboat.

Are you under the impression the blog post author is?

Look if people need money I don’t think many of us are passing judgement on that. But if you’re privileged and your sole criteria for a new job is accruing capital, you bet I pass judgement on it. And honestly once you get over 200k a year I think the immigrant straw person everyone points out whether they are one or not can probably start getting picky too.

(If you wanna wait until after 300k/yr I’m cool with that too. But at some point you’re accruing enough capital that you can start thinking about what you spend your time on in your day job, and have a moral obligation to do so. When this kicks in is totally relative to a person’s situation.)

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by DeathArrow »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #189
claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

Reading these responses is pretty upsetting. No wonder big tech is so evil. So many talented developers willing to sell their soul for more money. No thought to whether what they’re doing is causing harm to the world.

>No wonder big tech is so evil.

Big businesses have no ideology, even if some people would like to think otherwise. They will do everything they can to get more money. Anything resembling some kind of ideology or politics is done because it is helping the company to get more money.

Corporations aren't good or evil. They do good or evil (whatever someone might deem like so) as a side effect.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by oblio »

dangus wrote: post #194
yoyohello13 wrote: post #189

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Reading these responses is pretty upsetting. No wonder big tech is so evil. So many talented developers willing to sell their soul for more money. No thought to whether what they’re doing is causing harm to the world.

The irony of the article is that Meta isn’t even that hard to get into because so many candidates hard no on them because they know Facebook is evil. I read an article that said how Meta has to pay well above market rates to acquire talent due to their negative perception. It’s basically working for the cigarette company of tech.

That's just your bubble.

Facebook has been paying well since the start, to be able to poach from the "illegally reduced salary cartel members" (Apple, Google, Adobe, etc), 10-15 years ago.

And maybe some people say no, but they still get hundreds of people applying. There is an entire cottage industry built around preparing for their interviews.

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Post by DeathArrow »

lostcolony wrote: post #227
AsusToss wrote: post #19

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It’s wild to me that the only reason his wife gave him 30 mins/day of personal time was because of the financial payoff. Bizarre dude and story.

That...isn't what happened. He has his routine. That routine includes some amount of "family time", whatever that means. It is probably one they have discussed before, in ensuring that their mutual needs for companionship/childcare vs alone time are being met. The plan he came up with would cut into that time. Rather than just make that change on his own, he talked to her about it, ensuring that she was also on board…

>That's called "a healthy relationship".

That's called asking for permission.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by 3qz »

justinlloyd wrote: post #277

For years I have run in terror at the leetcodes I might be thrown by a tech company that thinks it is a FANG. Looking at the "Blind 75 Must Do Leetcode" problems, I must say, I am disappoint. I just spent four hours on a Friday evening going through each of the problems, and have so far solved 40+ of them, in a less than optimal fashion for the most part, but solved and "correct" to pass the test cases. Some of them…

> in a less than optimal fashion for the most part, but solved and "correct" to pass the test cases

You wouldn’t get through the interview. Most questions have a very easy brute force solution, but the answer they’re looking for is the optimal one. There’s also time constraints. Figure out the runtime complexity of your answer and compare it to the solutions.

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Post by oblio »

wyclif wrote: post #234
AsusToss wrote: post #19

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It’s wild to me that the only reason his wife gave him 30 mins/day of personal time was because of the financial payoff. Bizarre dude and story.

What's wild to me is that he had to ask his wife for permission to get more personal time in exchange for getting a much higher paying job. I've been married over 10 years and have two kids, and I don't need permission from anyone to do something that I think is going to improve the life of my loved ones; I just do it. And anyway, 30 min/day x three months seems to be a really small ask considering the dramatic impro…

Talking to your wife about time you'd otherwise spend together is very sensible, especially for a longer period such as 3 months.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by oblio »

DeathArrow wrote: post #287
lostcolony wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That...isn't what happened. He has his routine. That routine includes some amount of "family time", whatever that means. It is probably one they have discussed before, in ensuring that their mutual needs for companionship/childcare vs alone time are being met. The plan he came up with would cut into that time. Rather than just make that change on his own, he talked to her about it, ensuring that she was also on board…

>That's called "a healthy relationship". That's called asking for permission.

No, it's normal in a relationship, especially for something you'd do 3 months.
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