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Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by skeeter2020 »

UnpossibleJim wrote: post #54
treyfitty wrote: post #39

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I do something like this as a first pass, but prune based on Values. I wouldn’t ever consider Amazon… but at $1MM… that’s kinda “change your values” type money.

At a certain point, I guess you'd have to say to yourself (or I'd have to say to myself, would be a better way to say it), "I'll whore myself out for X amount of time for X amount of money, then I can do whatever I want or work for whomever I want for X amount of time, after."

flexible ethics? not everybody.

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Post by FridgeSeal »

_moof wrote: post #244
monksy wrote: post #197

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Can you blame them. A lot of the work is very unexciting and you're doing maintence on a business layer or some kind of framework crud work. Who's writing network drivers these days? Who's pushing streaming technologies to the max? Who's designing a cool iot framework/automated driving? Some people are...but most are write a microservice type tasks.

> Can you blame them. Yes.

I agree.

A distinction needs to be drawn between understanding an action and consequences/blame. You can understand why someone does something but still blame them for making the choice. Knowledge doesn’t obviate responsibility.

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Post by skeeter2020 »

seattle_spring wrote: post #238
ngokevin wrote: post #230

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Experienced engineers will have plenty of time and plenty of cheese to do whatever they want, up to them whether they choose to go to somewhere like Meta. The only thing I can imagine that $300k can't do that $750k-$1m can is buy up a bunch of property and price people out

You can retire far quicker on the higher salary.

then what?

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Post by ido »

nostrebored wrote: post #209
nostrademons wrote: post #132

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Amazon is not going to change from the inside for anyone making $1M. If you go in thinking it is, you're deluding yourself and will be much less effective than if you just accept that Amazon is what Amazon is and you're whoring yourself out to them for $1M/year. Your paygrade needs to be at least $100M/year to have a reasonable shot of changing the culture of a large company. Most likely, by the time you get up there…

$100m/yr? You have some very interesting ideas about corporate ceo/SVP salaries

Is $100m too low or too high?

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Post by wojciii »

rhizome wrote: post #100
antisthenes wrote: post #76

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Not if his wife doesn't work.

Parenting is work.

Exactly. I know this now. I didn't before I had children.

Some parenting is fun but most is hard unforgiving work that might or might not reward you in the future.

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Post by lovich »

ngokevin wrote: post #230
BeFlatXIII wrote: post #163

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If the primary purpose of your job is to raise funds for the things that actually matter, what other method would you use? Take the biggest bag that leaves you with enough time to enjoy what you worked so hard to spend that money on.

Experienced engineers will have plenty of time and plenty of cheese to do whatever they want, up to them whether they choose to go to somewhere like Meta. The only thing I can imagine that $300k can't do that $750k-$1m can is buy up a bunch of property and price people out

There’s also retire early as an option. I’m not good enough or willing to put in the effort to get good enough to get into meta, but if I was presented the option of working somewhere kinda shitty but I could retire in 5 years vs working somewhere that was decent but I won’t retire for 30 years, it’s an easy pick.

I can’t really find somewhere where I can work on somewhere I love because the Vern diagrams of jobs I would love to do, and jobs where I am an employee, are completely separate circles

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Post by lovich »

munificent wrote: post #152
fdgsdfogijq wrote: post #144

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What are you planning to do with all that financial independence? This question is a pet pieve of mine. The number of good answers is endless, and its sad that you would even ask it. Working is slavery, however you want to slice it.

> The number of good answers is endless. So why wait until retirement to start seeking them? > Working is slavery, however you want to slice it. This is a thought-terminating cliche. Slavery is slavery. Working is an arrangement you enter into voluntarily with a series of pros and cons for all participants. Is the CEO if a company a slave? The researcher who finds a cure for a disease a family member died from? A mus…

Until you have the option to not work at all, working might not be slavery but it’s definitely farther down the spectrum towards it than say, a retirees choices for their life. Getting financially independent removes the coercion that comes with all wage based work

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Post by tnel77 »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #189
claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

Reading these responses is pretty upsetting. No wonder big tech is so evil. So many talented developers willing to sell their soul for more money. No thought to whether what they’re doing is causing harm to the world.

It’s sad, but I don’t see the world getting better anytime soon. I am trying to earn and invest as much as I can for the sake of my children and grandchildren. I hope I’m wrong, but I feel like they will be financially devastated otherwise.

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Post by tnel77 »

fires10 wrote: post #233
ngokevin wrote: post #229

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I have to agree. I do understand human desire to put themselves and their families first, and that it's a job at corporations, and that some people view themselves as cogs in capitalism no matter what However when one the pick of the litter, there's a spectrum between getting $1M for a company responsible for polarization, breeding hate, and damaging democracy...to living well comfortably on $200k+ (or even $300k+) t…

Some people the money is necessary for survival. Those salaries are not easy to replicate outside of big tech. Making six figures is difficult in a lot of places. When I interviewed for Meta I knew I would accept what they gave me as they were offering remote at the time. I did not get the job, but I do actually need to support a family. Heck, where I live in the US, I would jump for less than $200k right now.

Less than $200k? Might as well off yourself.

Just kidding. It shouldn’t need to be said, but don’t actually off yourself.

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