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Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Is something wrong with software engineering interviews that one could reasonably need to spend months prepping for interviews? Leetcode problems can be fun and interesting, but seldom represent problems and skills I employ daily as a more senior software engineer. Studying these problems won’t help me much at my current employer and likely wouldn’t after I passed the interview gauntlet at another firm.

There are plenty of passionate software engineers who think those problems are actually fun. Independently of that (I don't think it's an immediate red flag if those problems are not fun for you, or not fun for you in that specific setting etc.), a lot of it is actually a glimpse into how working with that person might be. I.e. what ideas do they form, how do they communicate them, how do they respond to feedback, ho…

I personally do find those problems fun, or some of them. They rarely crop up in a professional capacity.

I've mostly seen them in my hobby gamedev work where things like concurrency and graphs and dynamism are endemic.

That's why leetcode filters really miss the mark because they usually don't fit the job description. They're just a lazy way to test searchable knowledge in an arbitrarily constrained setting.

What we really should be evaluating, as a profession, is reasoning and software design, scoped to the desired competency of the role.

Enjoyment is a side effect of that.

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The very last bit of the article interestingly stated that they author wouldn't spend time doing prep again, they would only make sure they applied with a referral. I definitely agree, it's kind of a blight on our industry that the interview process is so contorted compared to the actual work we're supposed to do.

> they would only make sure they applied with a referral. How is referral useful in general. You still have to go through the whole song and dance anyways?

Depends, if you have a specific enough referral to a particular hiring manager they could decide to stack the interview loop towards easy success

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What are you planning to do with all that financial independence? This question is a pet pieve of mine. The number of good answers is endless, and its sad that you would even ask it. Working is slavery, however you want to slice it.

> The number of good answers is endless. So why wait until retirement to start seeking them? > Working is slavery, however you want to slice it. This is a thought-terminating cliche. Slavery is slavery. Working is an arrangement you enter into voluntarily with a series of pros and cons for all participants. Is the CEO if a company a slave? The researcher who finds a cure for a disease a family member died from? A mus…

Seeking financial independence is more about having the freedom to choose whether to keep working or not. Many pursue the FI over the RE and find great joy and meaning in their work. If you'd be in deep trouble if you suddenly lost your job because you're not financially independent, then yes I think you're a slave to your job. People in FIRE communities constantly say to build the life you want to live and then save for it. Not enjoying the journey is a FIRE failure.

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Out of curiosity, what turns you off about Amazon?

Let’s put it this way: if a company tries to brainwash you with 14 “core” principles, those cogs aren’t principled at all. I went through the loop and made it to final round, despite my reservations just to see what it would be like. Of the 6 people I spoke to, I only had 1 positive experience. Everyone else was either being aggressive for no reason, or they were regurgitating words and had no value in the org. Hell,…

Websockets at scale are a special problem and he was probably right.

Asking questions for follow up meant you were missing some core piece of the ‘Amazonian’ way of tackling the problem.

Not being able to take the hints or criticism and thinking about it for years is probably evidence that Amazon would not have been a good place for you. That’s not always a bad thing.

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> referrals are the most important part of getting your foot in the door. …. Even still, I had referrals at both Google and Salesforce, both of which went nowhere after the initial submission phase.

Because referrals arent relevant at these companies! lol

man so out of touch, attributing way too much to the ways they acted

this is otherwise a good, no, amazing, blogpost!

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Reminds me of the old story of the King's servant saying to the monk, "If only you'd learn to pander to the King, you wouldn't have to live like a monk." To which the monk replied, "If only you'd learn to live like a monk, you wouldn't have to pander to the King!"

Thoreau makes a similar comment in Walden: > … instead of studying how to make it worth men’s while to buy my baskets, I studied rather how to avoid the necessity of selling them. https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/316215-not-long-since-a-str...

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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I'm forcing myself to write my own programming language and then solve leetcode with it to stand a chance in today's interview rodeo. If you're interested: https://github.com/glouw/rr/tree/master/examples/leetcode

That sounds like a terrible idea?

interviewer: we're going to do a small coding exercise. you can use ANY programming language you would like. ANY PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE!

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Parenting is not the kind of thing where you exchange your labor for money. It's not work in the sense that the parent comment meant it and you know that full well.

I tried to fire my mom once and it did not go as expected

I tried to fire my mom once when she asked for FANG level TC.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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The very last bit of the article interestingly stated that they author wouldn't spend time doing prep again, they would only make sure they applied with a referral. I definitely agree, it's kind of a blight on our industry that the interview process is so contorted compared to the actual work we're supposed to do.

> they would only make sure they applied with a referral. How is referral useful in general. You still have to go through the whole song and dance anyways?

Some companies never respond so it could help get the first call. Maybe if two candidates are otherwise equal but one has a great referral it might help. At smaller companies it definitely helps, I definitely remember calling referrals to get eh scoop on people but that might not be as true at the mega corps.
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