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People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
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Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, what does unusable mean? If my app offers a feature and the cookie is necessary for it to work, then it's essential. For example, a cart feature in an ecommerce app. Could you shop without a cart? Sure, still I would consider this cookie essential.
A cart does sound essential, but I guess it's up to a judge to decide. Perhaps you should implement a cookie-less "buy now" option to avoid needing to go before a judge.
Like a session variable?
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#133I use "I don't care about cookies" so in 99% of the case I have nothing to click, in any case my WebVM [1] start with a clean profile on any run (I have a small wrapper script to run the WebVM, via firejail, it wipe the profile restoring a pre-made one, re-built on weekly basis) so cookies do not last anyway even if fingerprint do not change.
I do not have used so far custom cookies settings, nor I consider trustable what they say anyway. For ads, js etc I have NoScript + TPRB (with the policy of allowing just the minimum js needed on the sites I care, hoping FF Reader suffice in other cases) and uBlock origin + others. I just allow some ads on veeeeery few friendly websites/YT channels if they are not exaggerated.
For cookies in general, I simply reject the idea of WebApps, for me the web MUST be just html+CSS. Desktops must be desktops not WebVM bootloaders and apps+data should be under MY control not under my WebVM and third parties control. Some simple examples: why the hell banks have websites that are more than just advertisements and contacts information? OpenBank is an example API mandatory between banks in SEPA area so not something built by a geek in a garage, and a client who talk OpenBank, a desktop one, that aggregate all my banks, with my digitally signed transactions stored locally, with the same UI and no crappy ads etc on my desktop is far better for me and far easier for the bank (far less bandwidth, far less infra development and maintenance costs etc). Similarly for maps. Similarly even for damn contact infos. An RFC to publish contact infos easy to download as vcards etc should be the norm and APIs makes integration in desktop apps easy and good environments, built as classic desktops (Xerox etc) can make such integration FAR more powerful for end users and far more cheap for anyone. WebApps are needed only by GAFAM and alike.
[1] the monster improperly named by most "browser" for legacy reasons...
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#134I have wondered about this also. I do most of my browsing in incognito windows, where cookies are not remembered once the window is closed. Am I correct in thinking it does not matter if I accept everything, since it will all be nuked in short order? Or is there a chance I am unwittingly allowing cross-session tracking based on IP or other attributes?
In theory, it shouldn't matter whether you choose to accept the cookies, since they'll be flushed anyways. In practice, you most likely are being tracked across multiple sessions based on IP.
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
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Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#136I press something like "more"/"accept" which usually has most of checkboxes turned off. I do it because it's easy. I don't really care that much about tracking, but if all it takes is one more click to prevent it, why not.
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#137>those in charge of the cookie banners really believe that they protect the interests of the user No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. They're aggressive because they don't want their data spigot turned off - hence the work-to-rule nonsense. You should not infer any benevolenc…
>No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. Given that you can completely block cookies and other tracking in the browser, why on earth did they bother? I despise bureaucrats writing laws when they don't understand technology.
Because GDPR has nothing to do with cookies.
You can have cookies without consent.
Tracking requires consent even if it doesn't use cookies.
You can block some tracking in the browser, but server-side tracking generally can't be blocked.
GDPR cares about whether you are tracking, not about the means you use to accomplish it.
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I despise engineers writing code when they don't understand laws. Yes, we can play the tracker-removal cat-and-mouse game, but that involves a lot of time and effort, projected forever . This battle is going to be won by whoever has the most time and money to waste, and, spoiler alert: it's not the adblock vendors. It's Google. In the specific case of cookies, you need those to authenticate to web services, so you ca…
Fortunately, we have replaced the tracker removal cat and mouse game with a consent banner cat and mouse game, projected forever. Problem solved, am I right? ;)
Well, yes, law enforcement in general is a cat-and-mouse game. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have any laws.
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
why are ads a menace to society? edit: thanks for the thoughtful response, downvoters!
normalizes expectation of others inserting ideas in ones head instead of critically assessing concepts with available observations and deriving one's own opinion for starters
why can't consumers critically assess ads the way they critically assess things like this post? what makes ads uniquely menacing?
Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
Preach! What we ultimately need is just a law that says it is illegal for companies to collect or store any data for marketing purposes, tracking, or resale. No opt ins, no exceptions. Unfortunately we can't fully kill targeted or unsolicited advertising at the root because of freedom of speech issues, but we can eliminate all the data it depends on.
why do you dislike targeted advertising?
I really don't mind targeted advertising.
One the ads are more relevant.
Two because the ads are more relevant the advertiser makes far more money on them and therefore doesn't have to show you as many to fund their service.