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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by BlargMcLarg » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

anm89 wrote: post #42

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

99% of people in tech aren't changing the world. They are building accounting and metrics and shopping and add platforms to get marginal increases to marginal revenue so some business can make a bit more money than they were making before. I'm honest that I trade my time for money. There are many times when I'll prioritize other things like working with people I like or not working with people I dislike, the same thi…

On that note, is anyone else getting a little tired of all the pretentiousness going about in tech? Suddenly, every tech company is claiming to "change the world" and "not like the others". You know, hyping these adds, metrics, platforms, etc. up as if they're going to really change life in a noteworthy way for Average Joe. Whatever happened to just putting in a good day's effort and admitting we're doing it for the money so we can pay the bills and a nice dinner?

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by ForHackernews » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

thwayunion wrote: post #46

ForHackernews wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cutting expenses also gets you closer to financial independence: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-si... In fact, it's doubly effective. If you can learn to reduce your expenses by $10k and live happily, not only do you have an additional $10k to save/invest, but you need less each year to live independently.

> If you can learn to reduce your expenses by $10k 1. This is crazy to me. I could maybe cut $3K by taking a huge hit to quality of life (that would probably not be sustainable with a full time job anyways). Getting the other $7K would involve either homelessness or cutting back on eating and visiting family. How do salary earners manage to rack up $10K per year of purely unnecessary expenses? 2. That number is still…

> The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king. Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king, you would not have to live on lentils.’

> Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils, and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

claudiulodro wrote: post #8

It's wild to me that his way of figuring out what companies to apply for was to make a list of the top-paying ones and just pick the top 10 highest-paying. Is that a common strategy? No thought about product, industry, impact on the world, just $$$. It looks like it worked out for them though, since I guess they got like a million dollar offer, so maybe I'm the one approaching this the wrong way?

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Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by tester756 » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 6:58 PM UTC

On one hand I do understand why somebody would want put a few months into grinding questions like this, it could be life changing salary jump.

but on the other hand I feel like I'd feel like I've went into some bad direction with my life - where's the curiosity part?

Idk, whenever I read about US software engineering market then I feel like it's one big game

Here in eastern eu I've never been asked about anything that isn't day to day stuff.

Of course sample size N=1, but also you don't need fanciness for crud apps :)

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by strikelaserclaw » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:03 PM UTC

babelfish wrote: post #26

> I would have the third-highest new offer on Levels out of over 200 offers on their site Looking at Facebook's salary data[0], does this mean the offer was in the ~$2M range? [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/company/Facebook/salaries/Software-En...

managers seem to get much more money than their corresponding peers on the software track according to this website.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by antisthenes » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:07 PM UTC

hn_user82179 wrote: post #36

AsusToss wrote: post #19

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It’s wild to me that the only reason his wife gave him 30 mins/day of personal time was because of the financial payoff. Bizarre dude and story.

FWIW I assume that's because they parent a 1 year old, and it's important to trade-off on caregiving time.

Not if his wife doesn't work.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by strikelaserclaw » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:07 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #41

There's this class of engineer. They're remarkably successful. Essentially, they mechanize the process of the job hunt: - Optimize for comp at all costs - Work at full professional capacity for the 9-5 - Excel at interviewing, often also fairly competent at their jobs - See the job as "just a job" Personally, I think that if you're a startup you shouldn't hire any of these people. But at big companies they will proba…

Whenever there is a lot of money on the table, these types of individuals will definitely show up in droves. Hell, do you think CS is fast becoming one of the most popular majors because most people love computers? For 60-70% of software engineers, it is all about making money and retiring.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by antisthenes » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:09 PM UTC

ForHackernews wrote: post #72

thwayunion wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you can learn to reduce your expenses by $10k 1. This is crazy to me. I could maybe cut $3K by taking a huge hit to quality of life (that would probably not be sustainable with a full time job anyways). Getting the other $7K would involve either homelessness or cutting back on eating and visiting family. How do salary earners manage to rack up $10K per year of purely unnecessary expenses? 2. That number is still…

> The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king. Said Aristippus, ‘If you would learn to be subservient to the king, you would not have to live on lentils.’ > Said Diogenes, ‘Learn to live on lentils, and you will not have to be subservient to the king.’

Also the businessman and fisherman story.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by strikelaserclaw » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:11 PM UTC

rla3rd wrote: post #68

I did the opposite, collected a bunch of salaries for my experience level on levels.fyi, showed them to my boss, and asked for a raise. Got a 50K bump without having to do much. I'm only in the mid 200s TC mind you, but not bad for just looking up what I could be worth.

seems like a rare place to bump you up 50k just like that.

Re: Changing jobs during the Great Resignation

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Post by BlargMcLarg » Fri, Apr 08, 2022, 7:11 PM UTC

strikelaserclaw wrote: post #77

renewiltord wrote: post #41

There's this class of engineer. They're remarkably successful. Essentially, they mechanize the process of the job hunt: - Optimize for comp at all costs - Work at full professional capacity for the 9-5 - Excel at interviewing, often also fairly competent at their jobs - See the job as "just a job" Personally, I think that if you're a startup you shouldn't hire any of these people. But at big companies they will proba…

Whenever there is a lot of money on the table, these types of individuals will definitely show up in droves. Hell, do you think CS is fast becoming one of the most popular majors because most people love computers? For 60-70% of software engineers, it is all about making money and retiring.

I'll take it one step further. Most people doing CS don't have a love for generic crud apps pipelining information over the web, but that's the far majority of safe jobs paying well as a software dev.

There are plenty of people who go into CS for more passionate fields such as game development. They often end up taking one of these safe jobs anyway.