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The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Is there a way to flag accounts that copypaste talking points into these kinds of topics?

"Quick! How do we shut this down!? The narrative must be preserved!"

You "flood the zone with crap" to shut it down. And that's what's happening. The above coppypasta is a prime example.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations: 1966 - Oil gone in 10 years 1968 - Overpopulation will spread worldwide 1969 - Everyone will disappear in a Cloud of Blue Steam in 1989 1970 - World will use up its natural resources by 2000 1970 - Urban citizens will require gas mask by 1985 1970 - Nitrogen buildup will make all lands unusable 1970 - D…

Are you sure about those headlines? A Google search for 'latimes "Volcano caldera ready to wipe out civilization"' [0] reveals two hits - both of them previous comments of yours on this site. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Volcano+caldera+ready+to+...

Did I say LA Times did all of those headlines? Nope.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Are you sure about those headlines? A Google search for 'latimes "Volcano caldera ready to wipe out civilization"' [0] reveals two hits - both of them previous comments of yours on this site. [0] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Volcano+caldera+ready+to+...

Did I say LA Times did all of those headlines? Nope.

Yes, that's exactly what you claimed.

> Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations:

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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> Nothing matters as much as our bone-headed, mass-suicidal march toward extreme-weather oblivion. Not COVID-19, not the invasion of Ukraine, not even “The Godfather.” Says a reporter living in Los Angeles, the 49th most expensive city in the world to live in. For a lot of people, what they need to talk about is how they're getting their next meal, how they're going to make rent, or survive a current war. Maybe go to…

If I told a person in a war zone there was a planetary crisis that would guarantee the death of the children or grandchildren, I don't have a doubt in the world they would care about it. Just because someone living in danger or poverty doesn't make them a fool or a coward.

As someone living in the third world let me assure you those living in poverty have more pressing challenges for themselves and their children. They are fighting raw nature daily for survival and your attempt to redirect attention away from, say, business and work creation to your "end of the world (maybe)" fears is not going to go over well.

What I don't understand is your lack of doubt that they would (or should) care. The conviction is something analogous to religion.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Man I wish we could just stop talking about the climate crisis all the time and start actually doing something about it. The science has been crystal clear for decades, and we have enough studies about how to solve problem to fill libraries. The issues has been discussed sufficiently, it's time to just implement the solutions.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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I was in Ukraine yesterday. That is 100% untrue. When you're in a war zone, even if you're in the country but far from the action, the only thing you can think about is your immediate survival and the survival of your friends and family. Literally nothing else matters.

Thanks for editing your comment for additional clarity. There isn't much one can do about anything if they survive until the next day, but that does not mean they don't care about non-immediate concerns. Flight 571 survivors were not pro-cannibalism , they did what they had to in order to survive in terrible circumstances. People in poverty and conflict definitely still care about their familys' futures.

A family in conflict might not have a future if we "only talk about 'climate crisis'".

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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News organizations designing headlines for attention does not undermine the data driven truth; resource consumption is real. Sorry the modeling techniques haven’t been as perfect as you’d prefer. Your inability to be swayed by Anglo-gibberish is formidable but you’re a non-entity to me and I don’t have to optimize for your preferences. Sit back down in your bubble and accept on a rock of 7 billion+ you are just one.…

(yawn). It’s a pet project of mine and a fun one at that (of many hobbies).

One might think you would also have sources to reference any of these articles (given it's your "hobby") but you're curiously silent when people point out most of these articles never got written.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Ignoring the fact that cherry picking the worst headlines says little about the average quality of journalism, I started looking into these claimed headlines and found that many were not in the LA Times, some were not headlines (they seem to be from the article text), and some don't seem to exist as described (like "5G cellular towers causes cancers" and "Volcano caldera ready to wipe out civilization"). I'm not a fa…

You said “all”. I said …”some” …

The word "all" never appeared in my post.

You wrote "Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines". A reasonable person would understand that quote to say that the headlines are from the LA Times, but it's only some of the many bad headlines the LA Times has had.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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I will still challenge these assertions. Lowering quality of life....to only a bazillion times better than a couple generations ago. When in reality the things people would be giving up are gluttonous wastes of energy like private jets and affordable vacations in the Caribbean (a new thing!).

I'll even go further to say that reducing fossil fuel usage for transportation (cars) and heating (natural gas) will improve quality of life for many. Air pollution is majorly bad for people's lungs, brains, and overall health. Not to mention the complete waste of time that rush hour represents.

Sure that’s true if it were free to do so. Tell me, how do you do so in practice without lowering the quality of life for some?

Trivially you could just ban those things. I think we’d agree in saying that would be very bad for many.

Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis

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Click the post's timestamp and tap "flag" and/or email concerns to hn@ycombinator.com.

I know about flagging posts, and that account's posts of this guff have been flagged before. I asked about flagging accounts

Then the second half of my response gave you the answer.
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