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That account copypastes it into climate threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30258365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27447861
And maintained by me, an avid reader of printed newspapers to this day.
> Nothing matters as much as our bone-headed, mass-suicidal march toward extreme-weather oblivion. Not COVID-19, not the invasion of Ukraine, not even “The Godfather.” Says a reporter living in Los Angeles, the 49th most expensive city in the world to live in. For a lot of people, what they need to talk about is how they're getting their next meal, how they're going to make rent, or survive a current war. Maybe go to…
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If I told a person in a war zone there was a planetary crisis that would guarantee the death of the children or grandchildren, I don't have a doubt in the world they would care about it. Just because someone living in danger or poverty doesn't make them a fool or a coward.
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This is happening in the part of the world where I live in.
Furthermore, the countries involved in this war are the biggest exporters of some crops and we could be facing global famines this very same year.
So, no.
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That account copypastes it into climate threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30258365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27447861
Is there a way to flag accounts that copypaste talking points into these kinds of topics?
That's where we are now. More than forty years of denialism and anti-science political pandering brought us here. With all of the calamities happening in the world right now, many people "just want to go back to normal." Unfortunately what was normal sucked.
Normal is advertising, marketing, and campaigning to ensure people feel personally responsible for the climate crisis. Normal is articles and helpful guides on how you can reduce your, "carbon footprint." Normal is green-washing products so that you continue along consuming as much as possible without having to feel like there is anything wrong with it.
Normal is paying lobbyists to prevent any action on climate change from impeding any industry from reaping profits off exploiting the environment. Normal is making sure that coal plants continue to burn, oil continues to be extracted and traded.
Normal is making sure people feel like they ought to take several vacations around the world every year. That they ought to have more than one car, live in a neighbourhood that requires it, that driving to work for an hour and a half each way five days a week is a totally normal thing to do.
Normal is making sure nobody notices how weird it is that we bottle water in plastic and sell it. Normal is making sure nobody notices that big corporations set up these operations on stolen land and avoid persecution for endangering the lives of the people that live there and the environment they operate in.
There's so much more about, "let's get back to normal," that is just gross.
Why do we want to get back to that? Is it even each of us, individually, that want this or is it someone else? Who benefits the most from, "going back to normal?"
If the pandemic has taught us something it should be that we can radically and quickly alter social structures when we need to. I try not to let all of the anti-mask/vaxx pressure from a vocal minority make me cynical. But I haven't forgotten the wild fires, floods, hurricanes, heat waves, record ice sheet loss, missing glaciers, and the thousands of species going extinct and into decline. Going back to normal is going back into the past. That sucked. I think we should be looking to the future. Make a new normal that sucks a bit less.
Scared people are easier to by manipulated and open for new orders. Just a friendly reminder.
Another Y Combinatory article posted recently even remarked that studies indicate gloom and doom detracts from advocacy.
> Nothing matters as much as our bone-headed, mass-suicidal march toward extreme-weather oblivion. Not COVID-19, not the invasion of Ukraine, not even “The Godfather.” Says a reporter living in Los Angeles, the 49th most expensive city in the world to live in. For a lot of people, what they need to talk about is how they're getting their next meal, how they're going to make rent, or survive a current war. Maybe go to…
The entire framing of the climate issue as "poor and middle class people need to use less energy, says a bunch of comparatively rich people living in high cost of living first world cities" guarantees political failure. The only way we will get real traction against this problem is if we stop framing it around shame and austerity and instead frame it as a problem solvable via technological innovation that also frees…
We already have several options available to massively curtail our emissions (solar, wind, hydro, geothermal). While yes new technology would make this transition even faster, a major, MAJOR roadblock is lobbying by fossil fuel industries and related corporate interests.
In terms of the technological discussion though, I am excited by the recent work done in molten salt cathode batteries for scale use (https://interestingengineering.com/molten-salt-12-week-batte...).
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If I told a person in a war zone there was a planetary crisis that would guarantee the death of the children or grandchildren, I don't have a doubt in the world they would care about it. Just because someone living in danger or poverty doesn't make them a fool or a coward.
I was in Ukraine yesterday. That is 100% untrue. When you're in a war zone, even if you're in the country but far from the action, the only thing you can think about is your immediate survival and the survival of your friends and family. Literally nothing else matters.
I wonder if western propaganda and hype generation for technology, quarterly gains, the latest stuff! could be leveraged intentionally to distract any human then given our shared biology.
That’s a rhetorical point since I know our biology is intentionally used against us like that by industry because marketing and PR execs have explained how it is just so they seek to keep our inner monologues flush with their phrases.
There’s plenty of new perspectives and applications of your agency available. Why not put yourself to them rather than demand others change theirs?
No? Going to sit at screen and PR others into action? Typical rich westerner; externalizing the change they want to see in the world.