To paraphrase: "Panic about what we are telling you to panic about". I'll pass, thank you.
This is not climate denialism. I am not going to panic at the whim of a newspaper editor.
The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
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Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#22There are lots of things to talk about other than the 'climate crisis' and exaggerating it can lead to a misallocation of resources really.
SO lets apply logic to your statement. How can applying more resources to climate change be a misallocation of resources?
Lookat this way, when jobs that are less efficient and re-structured to be more efficient the tendency is that we have job losses. Those can and will be offset by the re-allocation of resources towards green energy in the form of brand new jobs and career opportunities.
We can either fear the unknown or want to explore it.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#23Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations: 1966 - Oil gone in 10 years 1968 - Overpopulation will spread worldwide 1969 - Everyone will disappear in a Cloud of Blue Steam in 1989 1970 - World will use up its natural resources by 2000 1970 - Urban citizens will require gas mask by 1985 1970 - Nitrogen buildup will make all lands unusable 1970 - D…
I picked one of these arbitrarily, “Manhattan underwater by 2015”, and couldn’t find any evidence of the LA Times ever having claimed that, but I did find that people have been claiming, incorrectly, that the ABC (Australia) said that.
So unless you post sources for these, people should assume you are a troll.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#24Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations: 1966 - Oil gone in 10 years 1968 - Overpopulation will spread worldwide 1969 - Everyone will disappear in a Cloud of Blue Steam in 1989 1970 - World will use up its natural resources by 2000 1970 - Urban citizens will require gas mask by 1985 1970 - Nitrogen buildup will make all lands unusable 1970 - D…
The only source I can find on this list are previous HN comments. Searching for some of them is turning up nothing outside of that. Do you have a link to these, or a better search option than Google or the latimes.com's search?
EDIT: Also found a screenshot of the list on Reddit. Seems it's been bouncing around for a few years, never with any supporting evidence.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#25Is there any solution that doesn’t either involve developed countries lowering their quality of life or preventing developing nations from cheaply industrializing?
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#26Working on a web project about the reality of our situation and who can actually fix this and what we, as individuals, can actually contribute. A corrective to both the doomism and the superficial "recycle, plant a tree" listicles.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#27> Nothing matters as much as our bone-headed, mass-suicidal march toward extreme-weather oblivion. Not COVID-19, not the invasion of Ukraine, not even “The Godfather.” Says a reporter living in Los Angeles, the 49th most expensive city in the world to live in. For a lot of people, what they need to talk about is how they're getting their next meal, how they're going to make rent, or survive a current war. Maybe go to…
Says the commenter on a website where people treat six figure salaries like they are table stakes.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#28I’m a full on believer. I even own an EV but I think this alarmism is just making people numb. I think there’s a whole generation out there that never read “the boy who cried wolf”.
Yep, couldn't agree more.
I compost, watch what I buy and also own an EV. But as someone who went to engineering school I fully acknowledge that my actions basically don't even move the needle. There will always be people with less education or simply less means than me that quite frankly just have bigger issues. I think the big mistake alarmists make is blaming consumers and not huge companies like Exxon.
Even among my educated friends, it's clear that people acknowledge climate change but the ever increasing alarmism of "the world will end in 46 months" is flat out not helping. I barely got through 15 minutes of "Don't Look Up" which was clearly a bizarre politically charged hit-piece.
In the meantime I'll keep working with my local town's redwood conservancy and continue growing redwood saplings in my rural greenhouse :)
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#29Here are some of the many of Los Angeles Times’ newspaper headlines that they used to help with their circulations: 1966 - Oil gone in 10 years 1968 - Overpopulation will spread worldwide 1969 - Everyone will disappear in a Cloud of Blue Steam in 1989 1970 - World will use up its natural resources by 2000 1970 - Urban citizens will require gas mask by 1985 1970 - Nitrogen buildup will make all lands unusable 1970 - D…
How did you compile this 14 min after the article was posted?
Like it was pre-prepared. Climate change articles get quickly jumped on here with energetic negativity and are often flagged out. It's fascinating to watch; but a sign of a healthy debate, it is not.
Re: The only thing we should be talking about is the climate crisis
#30> Nothing matters as much as our bone-headed, mass-suicidal march toward extreme-weather oblivion. Not COVID-19, not the invasion of Ukraine, not even “The Godfather.” Says a reporter living in Los Angeles, the 49th most expensive city in the world to live in. For a lot of people, what they need to talk about is how they're getting their next meal, how they're going to make rent, or survive a current war. Maybe go to…
If I told a person in a war zone there was a planetary crisis that would guarantee the death of the children or grandchildren, I don't have a doubt in the world they would care about it. Just because someone living in danger or poverty doesn't make them a fool or a coward.