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But, with 30 years experience in software development, I won't even look into primary development tools that are not cross platform. I am mainly on Linux, often on Windows (usually because clients force me) and sometimes on Mac (for iOS development and cross platform testing). I want the same toolset no matter the hardware or OS.
Nice product just a FYI your website doesn't render well on UltraWide screens.
The editor looks really nice! And the price tag is absolutely fine for what it promises. But, with 30 years experience in software development, I won't even look into primary development tools that are not cross platform. I am mainly on Linux, often on Windows (usually because clients force me) and sometimes on Mac (for iOS development and cross platform testing). I want the same toolset no matter the hardware or OS.
Just came to the comments to say exactly the same. If I can't use a tool I'm supposed to use daily, on the three main platforms me (and others) are stuck with, then I can't justify to use it at all, unless it's forced on me (hello xcode et al).
As much as I'm keen to see software like this, making an editor work as a business is hard, and Zas has a long road ahead of it.
However Apple could really use something like this. Xcode is big and bloated, with a ton of support for features that are no longer the future of Apple's platforms (Storyboards, Objective-C, SVN integration...). A clean start with a modern codebase designed for languages fairly similar to Swift, plus the shift towards Swift Package Manager for managing builds (rather than xcodebuild), could be great improvement.
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I'm locked in emacs (joke intended). But I must admit that my rust/LSP experience with Emacs doesn't hold 5 seconds in front of what I've just seen on the Zas website...
> my rust/LSP experience with Emacs doesn't hold 5 seconds in front of what I've just seen on the Zas website My preferred way of working after 20+ years in the industry, is finding the "best tool" for the job. Vim is my "goto" editor for everything that doesn't have a better tool, but any perceived performance gain from being familiar with an editor needs to be compared to the performance gains of using the speciali…
Just kidding... I code small stuff nowadays, so emacs is just fine. But if I had to get into something big, I'd certainly use a tool with powerful and fast code navigation, and something that works out of the box. LSP mode on emacs is not easy to set up. I mean, you can get it 90% working in 15 minutes, sure, but then come the little things such as: you're waiting for your LSP server to start, pop up windows actually don't pop up, the LSP hints don't update themselves unless you save your file, sometimes they take 3+ seconds for update (an eternity when you type code), I still don't know how to jump from a stack trace to the code, etc. So yep, refactoring is there, navigation is there, much is there but it's not super tightly packaged...
But for other things, emacs is just cool. Small python scripts, R code, org mode, git stuff,...
I wonder if it really still make sense to develop an editor as a commercial product. This is probably a massive effort, and the revenue is maybe not so large. There is IntelliJ and Visual Studio. IntelliJ is successful, yes, but they have a long history, and the editor is really good. Visual Studio is maybe also successful but I'm not sure how profitable it really was or is. But otherwise? Sublime Text and others wer…
Most of the world's coders have probably not been born yet. Code tooling is still getting more valuable per hour spend on developing it. If IntelliJ was worth it in the past, so is potentially every tool from here on out.
Of course with web IDEs and AI coding, the whole space might still end up somewhere else entirely, requiring very different things, but alas, that's always a potential outcome.
Curious, what is your rationale behind having a 7 day trial? The time a customers invests to dive into and get attached to your product seems like best predictor for a future sale.
I wonder if it really still make sense to develop an editor as a commercial product. This is probably a massive effort, and the revenue is maybe not so large. There is IntelliJ and Visual Studio. IntelliJ is successful, yes, but they have a long history, and the editor is really good. Visual Studio is maybe also successful but I'm not sure how profitable it really was or is. But otherwise? Sublime Text and others wer…
Still profitable enough to be larger than it's ever been, enough to fund new products like Sublime Merge and continue releasing updates. I'd argue any small business that provides a lively hood for at least one person is fairly successful.
Zas Editor developer here. I think it’s important to address a problem a few people have mentioned so far: no data is collected other than your Mac’s serial number, which used to be used for finding how many computers a license is used on (we no longer do that) We’re going to add a privacy policy in the website. We haven’t already done that because we didn’t really expect this much attention within hours of releasing…
https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo...
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> my rust/LSP experience with Emacs doesn't hold 5 seconds in front of what I've just seen on the Zas website My preferred way of working after 20+ years in the industry, is finding the "best tool" for the job. Vim is my "goto" editor for everything that doesn't have a better tool, but any perceived performance gain from being familiar with an editor needs to be compared to the performance gains of using the speciali…
My 35+ years experience (ah ah!) tells me that emacs is the best :-) Just kidding... I code small stuff nowadays, so emacs is just fine. But if I had to get into something big, I'd certainly use a tool with powerful and fast code navigation, and something that works out of the box. LSP mode on emacs is not easy to set up. I mean, you can get it 90% working in 15 minutes, sure, but then come the little things such as:…
Instead i've more or less settled on Obsidian for my notes, which does 99% of what i used org-mode for, and i use other tools for the last 1%. The only thing i'm missing is a good (integrated) solution for task and time tracking/reporting.
I'm aware that PlainOrg (https://plainorg.com/) exists, but i've already moved my notetaking workflow to Obsidian, and i'm deeply entrenched in modules with that, so moving now would probably not accomplish much.
Somewhat ironically, the best Org-mode plugin i've found for "other than Emacs" editors is for Sublime Text : https://github.com/ihdavids/orgextended