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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by bushbaba »

yonixw wrote: post #60
nijave wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Athena isn't fully closed source. It's a customized, hosted version of Presto originally built by Facebook. Apache Drill is in a similar space to Athena and can query unstructured or semi structured data like object/S3

You are correct, But as I understand, They get "RAW" file access to the S3 hard disk (or the equivalent) in their solution. So no matter what solution I might spawn, it will always be slower and more expensive. Maybe I should have said "closed internal access features"

Doubtful. I've personally had projects pull many hundreds of gigabits per second of s3 throughput. How you architect and design has a large influence to your analytics performance.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by k8sToGo »

YorickPeterse wrote: post #117

At GitLab we went from AWS to Azure, then to Google Cloud (this was a few years ago). AWS was what we started with, and I think like most companies very little attention was paid to the costs, setup, etc. The result was that we were basically setting money on fire. I think at some point Azure announced $X in free credits for YC members, and GitLab determined this would save us something like a year's worth in bills (…

I wish Hetzner provided RDS

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by Daishiman »

kissgyorgy wrote: post #79
lolinder wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Really, I can't see a compelling reason to be in the cloud for the majority of mid-level workloads like ours. I work on a very small team. We have a few developers who double as ops. None of us are or want to be sysadmins. For our case, Amazon's ECS is a massive time and money saver. I spent a week or two a few years ago getting all of our services containerized. Since then we have not had a single full production…

> None of us are or want to be sysadmins. It's such a huge misconception that by using a cloud provider you can avoid having "sysadmins" or don't need that kind of skills. You still need those, no matter which cloud and which service you use.

The difference doing ops setting up a couple of Lambdas or Fargate containers vs provisioning your own servers is substantial.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by mijoharas »

oauea wrote: post #16
moring wrote: post #14

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> Don't switch to Azure unless your employer forces you, you will regret it. Can you give any details? Pricing, reliability, weird quirks you have to program around, ...?

Many operations are INCREDIBLY slow. Creating a VM. Mounting a disk to a VM. All take easily 10-30x longer than I'm used to with other clouds. This is especially annoying with Kubernetes as it likes to move disks between VMs which... takes a while on Azure. Many, many, backwards incompatible changes in their Kubernetes platform. I've had to recreate clusters about twice a year so far. Lately it's been better since th…

> Also, their support engineers are unwilling to help you unless you run Windows. They always insist on remoting into your machine using some Windows utility, even though the issue is with their cloud instead of my machine.

That last point sounds like enough of a reason to never touch then with a barge pole.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by ketzo »

vidarh wrote: post #126
michealr wrote: post #71

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Would you have a write up in more detail of what you did, even high level. Seems cool thing to do

Unfortunately not, but it's surprisingly straight-forward, apart from the database bit, but here's a bit more detail from memory. There are many ways of doing this and some will depend strongly on which tools you're comfortable with (e.g. nginx vs. haproxy vs. some other reverse proxy is largely down to which one you know best and/or already have in the mix) [Today I might have considered K8s, but this was before tha…

Damn, this is why I come to HN. This is awesome, thank you so much for taking the time to write it up.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by timmit »

Yes, I changed from AWS to Oracle, from Caprover to k8s, because of the Oracle Cloud Always Free resources, it can save $20/month, and give me 20 times more ram, 6 times more storage

I wrote a blog before the implementation. [move to k3s cluster](https://tim.bai.uno/how-to-deploy-a-django-application-to-a-...)

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by InflexHQ »

YorickPeterse wrote: post #117

At GitLab we went from AWS to Azure, then to Google Cloud (this was a few years ago). AWS was what we started with, and I think like most companies very little attention was paid to the costs, setup, etc. The result was that we were basically setting money on fire. I think at some point Azure announced $X in free credits for YC members, and GitLab determined this would save us something like a year's worth in bills (…

I switched from Azure to DigitalOcean to Hetzner. Reasons were as you stated, simpler cost model, simpler technology.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by hardwaresofton »

k8sToGo wrote: post #172
YorickPeterse wrote: post #117

At GitLab we went from AWS to Azure, then to Google Cloud (this was a few years ago). AWS was what we started with, and I think like most companies very little attention was paid to the costs, setup, etc. The result was that we were basically setting money on fire. I think at some point Azure announced $X in free credits for YC members, and GitLab determined this would save us something like a year's worth in bills (…

I wish Hetzner provided RDS

So it’s a bit in the future but managed postgres is something I want to offer through nimbus[0]. In the Meantime if you’re interested in other managed services, please sign up!

[0]: https://nimbusws.com

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by k8sToGo »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #178
k8sToGo wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish Hetzner provided RDS

So it’s a bit in the future but managed postgres is something I want to offer through nimbus[0]. In the Meantime if you’re interested in other managed services, please sign up! [0]: https://nimbusws.com

I think your website is broken on mobile. The alignment is off and the contact form is cut off.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by Johnny555 »

YorickPeterse wrote: post #117

At GitLab we went from AWS to Azure, then to Google Cloud (this was a few years ago). AWS was what we started with, and I think like most companies very little attention was paid to the costs, setup, etc. The result was that we were basically setting money on fire. I think at some point Azure announced $X in free credits for YC members, and GitLab determined this would save us something like a year's worth in bills (…

I think at some point Azure announced $X in free credits for YC members, and GitLab determined this would save us something like a year's worth in bills (quite a bit of money at the time). Moving over was rather painful, and I think in the months that we used Azure literally nobody was happy with it. In addition, I recall we burned through the free credits _very_ fast.

That sounds like the worst reason to change cloud providers: "because that provider bribed me to"

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