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Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by sjg007 »

derelicto wrote: post #114

This is very anecdotal, but I have a friend that interviewed at Google for a Remote SWE position - everything indicated that it was remote: the posting, the recruiter and the hiring manager. Now they announced RTO, his manager said: "We're excited to have you at the office" - he was really confused about this messaging, so they forced him to apply to work remotely (even if he had been hired as such) denied his applic…

Your friend probably has a claim against the company for breach of contract. When people leave a job to join a new one and incur expenses and then the new company lays them off or fires them for no fault then the judges usually side with the employee.

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Post by dorianmariefr »

mabbo wrote: post #45

When I went looking for a fully remote position last year, I was worried that exactly this might happen. Then I heard that Shopify had literally shut down and sold their offices. It's not actually possible for the company to go back to the office because they don't exist. So that's where I work now.

Would love to follow you on Twitter what’s yours?

Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

sydbarrett74 wrote: post #125
bcj7393nsk wrote: post #4

Don’t worry, remote WFH is ending. Soon, this situation will never happen.

I was offered the opportunity to work 100% remotely for a large financial corporation which has the bulk of its operations in my home town. This was back in 2006. One of my best friends was outfitted with a DS1 to his house back in the mid '90's so he could work remotely. tl;dr: Telecommuting has been around for decades and is only going to become more common, not less. The pandemic merely accelerated the trend.

Can confirm. Buddy of mine was good, lived far away, and basically threatened to walk if accommodation was not made. Remote existed for a while, but it was considered a 'favor' bosses bestowed upon you. Now it is the norm and suddenly not only normal order is upset, but also one carrot is gone from the manager's quiver.

I completely agree with your post.

Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by severine »

victor9000 wrote: post #127
mabbo wrote: post #45

When I went looking for a fully remote position last year, I was worried that exactly this might happen. Then I heard that Shopify had literally shut down and sold their offices. It's not actually possible for the company to go back to the office because they don't exist. So that's where I work now.

Similarly, I focused on companies that were based abroad but hiring in the US. Can't be forced to commute from Seattle to Mexico City. And if anyone is interested in for real remote work, we're hiring SDE & Sr SDE frontend (React) and backend (Python). See my profile for contact info if interested.

> See my profile for contact info if interested.

No contact info on profile (not interested, just saying).

Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by brazzledazzle »

derelicto wrote: post #114

This is very anecdotal, but I have a friend that interviewed at Google for a Remote SWE position - everything indicated that it was remote: the posting, the recruiter and the hiring manager. Now they announced RTO, his manager said: "We're excited to have you at the office" - he was really confused about this messaging, so they forced him to apply to work remotely (even if he had been hired as such) denied his applic…

Considering how aggressively they prune candidates with their "false positives are better than hiring someone bad" policy you'd think they'd be more motivated to retain people they hire.

Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by spaniard89277 »

MivLives wrote: post #131
vasco wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 On this. Find somewhere that was remote before pandemic or that shifted fully. I've worked fully remotely for the same company for almost 6 years now. Having worked in an office before, one belief I've formed over the years is that working at a place that doesn't have remote at the core and that has staff that's remote and staff that isn't, would create a two-tier system and I'd be very afraid of trying it. In fac…

The company I'm working for is struggling with this. They firmly believe in no remote. They won't entertain it for juniors, and generally to get approval you need to be pretty vital. But at the same time they've also opened up multiple offices (that are all in different geos, timezones). What the end result is that in my section of the company I'm effectively remote working from the off as my team has a remote contra…

Dude, you're an employee. If management doesn't respect you, look elsewhere. You're working in IT, it's not like you can't change work. You'll risk getting less money, but if you're happier who cares?

Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions

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Post by JohnFen »

cyberlurker wrote: post #136

I make my employers put it in the contract before I sign. But I’m not unsympathetic to people being abused by big companies and recruiters. This is some bullshit.

This.

It's something that applies to the general case, not just employment, and not just with big companies: if it's not in the contract, it doesn't exist. Any condition that's important to you MUST be in the contract.

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