You definitely need to name the company that did this.
Or inform the company of the recruiter who is wasting their staffs time interviewing incompatible candidates. This doesn't seem to be the companies fault.
The recruiter worked for the company.
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? This isn't Twitter, piling on a company doesn't add much to the discussion, it just lets people focus their outrage better
It adds the most important thing to the discussion: Which company is it, so we - the other people working in the same field, applying for the same jobs - can avoid it.
And without it the post is pointless. Recruiters lie. Yes. Sales people lie all the time. It's not news.
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#44When I joined my current company, I made sure to have it specified in my offer that I had the option to be fully remote in perpetuity. I know it doesn't actually make a difference — they can fire me for any reason, and I'm not going to take them to court over it — but it makes me feel like at least we have agreed on terms.
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#45When I went looking for a fully remote position last year, I was worried that exactly this might happen.
Then I heard that Shopify had literally shut down and sold their offices. It's not actually possible for the company to go back to the office because they don't exist.
So that's where I work now.
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I'm not seeing why that would be a problem.
In what context is focusing ones outrage at all useful, ever? This is just reinforcing destruction, promoting group identity, enabling a mob mentality, and sometimes promotes violence. Honest critique is one thing, mob mentality outrage is not an honest critique.
The company is doing what would be illegal in most places, and definitely immoral here.
They deserve the outrage and the outrage is the only thing that's gonna fix this.
Also to answer your question. Literally every single positive change in this country has come out of focused outrage.
Civil rights movement LGBT rights Women's rights The basic amount of worker and consumer rights.
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#47I'm curious, what level was the position? The process was months long and went to a hiring committee? That sounds like a what you'd have for a faculty position or something, was this a research position?
nah that just sounds like google
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#48My Amazon team (based out of Toronto) is hiring remotely. I know the hiring manager won't change their mind because I am the manager.
Yeah but you're also amazon
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#49> [...] the job opening didn't say remote, the agreement they signed didn't say remote.
I don't understand. Do people sign a contract that states something differently than they were being told verbally before?
Imho what isn't in writing doesn't exist. Especially when it comes to "promises" from potential employers.
For example I would not trust a promised raise in 12 months when nothing was done in writing. Even with the best of employers I would not agree to anything if they didn't agree to writing it down.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not seeing why that would be a problem.
In what context is focusing ones outrage at all useful, ever? This is just reinforcing destruction, promoting group identity, enabling a mob mentality, and sometimes promotes violence. Honest critique is one thing, mob mentality outrage is not an honest critique.
Individuals can choose to do the actions you describe and that needs to be dealt with at an individual level.
What is being discussed is responsibility for actions.