So what you mean is, "A Recruiter lied about A position"?
Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
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Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#22I see a few possibilities:
1) Recruiter was misinformed and/or policies changed while you were interviewing. A lot of companies, including some of the big names, have been changing their remote policies in 2022. They're also playing off each other and the hiring market, so the situation is evolving quickly. Given what I've seen lately, it's possible that they were hiring remotely when your process started but they ended that policy before you crossed the finish line. (EDIT: Op mentioned scheduling interviews around the holidays in a different comment. With such a long interview cycle, I'd expect changing policies is the most likely explanation)
2) Recruiter was lying. I actually don't think this is likely because the recruiter would just be wasting their time. Recruiters don't actually gain anything and lose a lot of opportunity cost by running dead-end candidates through the pipeline for jobs they know won't be accepted.
3) You might have been switched to a different opening or department during the interview process. If the initial hiring manager declined you, they may have found someone else who wanted to pick up the thread. They should have notified you about the difference, of course.
4) Finally, it's possible they decided you weren't a good fit for remote work. Hybrid remote/in-office companies are becoming more picky about who they're allowing to work remote because not everybody can handle it. Usually the strongest candidates are afforded remote opportunities, but borderline maybes will be asked to be on-site at the start so they can be closely mentored.
Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#23This is just another thing in a long line of scrupulous things that recruiters do. If bad actors will edit your resume before sending it in then lying about the remote nature of a job is just another part of that. Which FAANG? Name and shame.
I'm still holding on to a slight hope that the recruiter will find a hiring manager willing to override the committee and all of my time and effort will not have been wasted. They said they'd keep looking but they were probably just trying to get me off the phone. I'll put it this way. One FAANG I wouldn't work at under any circumstances. One FAANG has been very clear that they want employees on site. One FAANG has a…
Why so indirect?
Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#24You definitely need to name the company that did this.
Or inform the company of the recruiter who is wasting their staffs time interviewing incompatible candidates.
This doesn't seem to be the companies fault.
Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#25You definitely need to name the company that did this.
Why? This isn't Twitter, piling on a company doesn't add much to the discussion, it just lets people focus their outrage better
It adds the most important thing to the discussion: Which company is it, so we - the other people working in the same field, applying for the same jobs - can avoid it.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it helps people make better decisions about where they apply and how far they get before getting commitments like remote working in writing!
The Recruiter could have left, they could have been told it was Remote and the company changed their minds later, could have been a simple mistake. Why burn a company without knowing the facts?
The company and only the company could have prevented it, but they didn’t.
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Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#28This is just another thing in a long line of scrupulous things that recruiters do. If bad actors will edit your resume before sending it in then lying about the remote nature of a job is just another part of that. Which FAANG? Name and shame.
This happened to me with Amazon.
Me too, but they actually connected me with 1 hiring manager hiring remote. His team seemed very new and disorganized (and not in my expertise) so I preferred not to join it. The recruiter said they couldn't find any other remote hiring managers, kinda blamed me for not taking the first. Now every month I get a email or inMail from Amazon recruiters :)
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#29scene, ten years ago
I apply for a job at a university. Job description says a college degree is required. I state in the cover letter that I do not have a degree, but hoped my experience would make up for it.
HR emails a few days later. Phone interview? I disclose NoDegree. Not a problem, she says.
Phone interview with her goes fine. She passes me off to the department and a C-level dude who apparently has to sign off on all hires for this category.
Phone interview with the C-level dude. I disclose NoDegree. Not a problem, he says.
Email from the department business manager asking for an in-person interview. Disclose NoDegree. Not a problem, when can you come in?
In-person interview with the business manager, a lab assistant, and about 6 or so faculty members. The faculty in particular love me. Disclose NoDegree to each of them. No problem, they say. Lots of experience.
Two weeks later, not a peep. Email the business director.
Response: "sorry, we went with a candidate with a degree."
Fucking assholes wasted easily 40 hours of my life on that bullshit.
Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#30Maybe we should get a list going of scummy recruiters.
I would be on board with this. I would even pay a small fee to have access to this list.