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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by tinco »

yonixw wrote: post #48

In my company, we were aware about the potential honeypots in each cloud and we developed our product from the first commit to be deployed on 3 (!) clouds: AWS, Azure, IBM. And while we made it work by sticking to the least common denominator which was FaaS/IaaS (Lambda, S3, API GW, K8s). It was certainly not easy. We also ignored tools that could've helped us greatly only against a single cloud in order to be multi…

Why did you feel IBM is best when you only use K8S? Our platform fully K8S and I'm looking to somewhere where we get more performance per buck, probably not IBM but I'm surprised it's even in the list. Do they have an extra nice K8S dashboard or something?

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by dx034 »

Hardik_Shah wrote: post #13

I have. I was working for a company that had its own data centers, but we were running out of space and time to add more. We were already using Rackspace as a managed hosting provider (we didn't want to manage our own infrastructure), so we decided to move from our data center to Rackspace's data center. The difference in terms of services was negligible, because they all offered almost identical services. But we did…

Sounds really interesting. I don't understand why so many companies think the alternative to owning your DC must be the cloud. I think the step you describe is where companies can get rid of a lot of overhead and save massive amounts of money. Migrating to the cloud tends to do the opposite.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by dx034 »

bombcar wrote: post #33
Hardik_Shah wrote: post #13

I have. I was working for a company that had its own data centers, but we were running out of space and time to add more. We were already using Rackspace as a managed hosting provider (we didn't want to manage our own infrastructure), so we decided to move from our data center to Rackspace's data center. The difference in terms of services was negligible, because they all offered almost identical services. But we did…

Interesting - we moved the other direction (to Linode) from Rackspace because their VM/dedicated pricing was just out of whack. Our new box was nominally the same as the old at half the price, but the "4 CPU" was so much newer that it was nearly 2x.

At the same scale? I guess if you move a whole data center, they'll quote very different prices from their public ones.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by Xenixo »

eric4smith wrote: post #27

Moved from Google Cloud -> Digital Ocean -> OVH. Running our own stuff on high powered servers is very easy and less trouble than you think. Sorted out the deploy with a "git push" and build container(s) meant we could just "Set it and forget it". We have a bit under a terabyte of Postgresql data. Any cloud is prohibitively expensive. I think some people think that the cloud is as good a sliced bread. It does not rea…

Maintainability is much easier on a well working cloud setup from people who have potentially less knowledge.

One company had 6 servers and used AWS snapshot for backup + managed MySQL.

Backup and recovery of that db is possible by more people in the team as if it would run as non managed service.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by safeerm »

hpeinar wrote: post #26

Moved a project with around 600k monthly users from Heroku / Google (split setup) to full AWS setup. Whole process took around 3 months, that was from start of creating AWS account to finish when all production environments were running on AWS and Heroku was "shut down". There was some planning ahead of this as well, so actual time varies. Heroku was heavily limiting platform (for example, they didn't and still don't…

What are you using for compute EKS and Fargate? We just helped someone switch from Heroku to AWS and they dropped their cloud costs by 67%. This is using ECS + EC2. Fargate is typically 2x more expensive.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by nijave »

yonixw wrote: post #48

In my company, we were aware about the potential honeypots in each cloud and we developed our product from the first commit to be deployed on 3 (!) clouds: AWS, Azure, IBM. And while we made it work by sticking to the least common denominator which was FaaS/IaaS (Lambda, S3, API GW, K8s). It was certainly not easy. We also ignored tools that could've helped us greatly only against a single cloud in order to be multi…

Athena isn't fully closed source. It's a customized, hosted version of Presto originally built by Facebook.

Apache Drill is in a similar space to Athena and can query unstructured or semi structured data like object/S3

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by OliverGilan »

tinco wrote: post #51
yonixw wrote: post #48

In my company, we were aware about the potential honeypots in each cloud and we developed our product from the first commit to be deployed on 3 (!) clouds: AWS, Azure, IBM. And while we made it work by sticking to the least common denominator which was FaaS/IaaS (Lambda, S3, API GW, K8s). It was certainly not easy. We also ignored tools that could've helped us greatly only against a single cloud in order to be multi…

Why did you feel IBM is best when you only use K8S? Our platform fully K8S and I'm looking to somewhere where we get more performance per buck, probably not IBM but I'm surprised it's even in the list. Do they have an extra nice K8S dashboard or something?

Second this question. Never heard of IBM being exceptional for k8s. Curious to know what makes OP say it’s so good.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by nijave »

tinco wrote: post #51
yonixw wrote: post #48

In my company, we were aware about the potential honeypots in each cloud and we developed our product from the first commit to be deployed on 3 (!) clouds: AWS, Azure, IBM. And while we made it work by sticking to the least common denominator which was FaaS/IaaS (Lambda, S3, API GW, K8s). It was certainly not easy. We also ignored tools that could've helped us greatly only against a single cloud in order to be multi…

Why did you feel IBM is best when you only use K8S? Our platform fully K8S and I'm looking to somewhere where we get more performance per buck, probably not IBM but I'm surprised it's even in the list. Do they have an extra nice K8S dashboard or something?

Not sure where you're currently at and considering moving to, but GKE has been much simpler than EKS. Not sure about cost but it'll likely save some operations time (auto scaling is a single check box, no IAM, scaling controllers, etc)

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever switched cloud?

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Post by yonixw »

nijave wrote: post #57
yonixw wrote: post #48

In my company, we were aware about the potential honeypots in each cloud and we developed our product from the first commit to be deployed on 3 (!) clouds: AWS, Azure, IBM. And while we made it work by sticking to the least common denominator which was FaaS/IaaS (Lambda, S3, API GW, K8s). It was certainly not easy. We also ignored tools that could've helped us greatly only against a single cloud in order to be multi…

Athena isn't fully closed source. It's a customized, hosted version of Presto originally built by Facebook. Apache Drill is in a similar space to Athena and can query unstructured or semi structured data like object/S3

You are correct, But as I understand, They get "RAW" file access to the S3 hard disk (or the equivalent) in their solution. So no matter what solution I might spawn, it will always be slower and more expensive.

Maybe I should have said "closed internal access features"

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